MOT Failure

An alchemy of sparks, copper wire and earth

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
User avatar
el sketcho
Registered user
Posts: 151
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 21:00
80-90 Mem No: 5851
Location: West London

MOT Failure

Post by el sketcho »

Got the van back from camper shak last weekend, the interior's full done now. On the way back popped into a friend of mine that lives in Knutsford and he very kindly painted my alloys for me. while the van was up north the MOT ran out, took it into have it done this morning and it failed on a few points.
1. rear tyre below legal depth (Sorted)
2.N/S headlight aim too high (sort that when it gets dark)
3. O/S & N/S indicators have secondary light in them which is not allowed (? it's been through other MOTs and no one's ever said anything. Might just take the side light bulbs out of them)
4. rear fog lights not working ( I've checked the bulbs and they are ok, the switch lights up and the fuse is ok. Fresh out of ideas now.)

Can anyone shed any light on points 3 & 4

andy
If you're better than the leading brand, why aren't you the leading brand?

User avatar
Ian Hulley
Registered user
Posts: 12661
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 08:08
80-90 Mem No: 1323
Location: Wirksworth, Derbyshire ... or at t'mill

Re: MOT Failure

Post by Ian Hulley »

el sketcho wrote:3. O/S & N/S indicators have secondary light in them which is not allowed (? it's been through other MOTs and no one's ever said anything. Might just take the side light bulbs out of them)

Correct, sounds like the test guy was having a bad day, often they ignore such additions ... although with the latest reg changes .... :?

el sketcho wrote: 4. rear fog lights not working ( I've checked the bulbs and they are ok, the switch lights up and the fuse is ok.

There should only be 1 fog light on the offside. Try cleaning up the earth directly behind the cluster, it sounds like the power's getting to it (you DID click the foglight switch past the 'front fogs' part of the switch didn't you ? It should click twice.

Ian.
The Hulley's Bus
1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter
LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure

Damien
Trader
Posts: 331
Joined: 02 May 2009, 16:21
80-90 Mem No: 6747
Location: Farnborough hampshire

Re: MOT Failure

Post by Damien »

4. Rear fog lights

Mines similar foggies worked on drive, 2 out of 3 times at mot it didn't and the 1 time it did it was because he tapped it.

Clean up all connections and the bulb holder. Clean up bayonet on bulb or replace. Worked for me.

westyguesty
Registered user
Posts: 16
Joined: 01 Jul 2007, 14:58
80-90 Mem No: 4638
Location: Shropshire

Re: MOT Failure

Post by westyguesty »

There's a second fuse for the foglights. You need to take the main fuse board off and it's one of the fuses on top of there. Worth checking.

User avatar
..lee..
Registered user
Posts: 736
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 22:13
80-90 Mem No: 4478
Location: llanelli, s wales

Re: MOT Failure

Post by ..lee.. »

cant see why running lights in a indicator lamp should fail mot unless it adversly effects the opperation of the indicator itself.

landrover disco`s come like this from the factory.

you need to look at the testers manual with the tester and if you have a valid argument against his or her discision then they should give the benifit of doubt to you.


link..................................http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hope this helps.

lee.

User avatar
el sketcho
Registered user
Posts: 151
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 21:00
80-90 Mem No: 5851
Location: West London

Re: MOT Failure

Post by el sketcho »

The connections all seem ok and none of the fuses are blown. I tried to see if there was power on the switch, admittedly it lights up when you click it onto the second setting, but that doesn't mean there's power does it?
If you're better than the leading brand, why aren't you the leading brand?

User avatar
el sketcho
Registered user
Posts: 151
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 21:00
80-90 Mem No: 5851
Location: West London

Re: MOT Failure

Post by el sketcho »

Right I'm picking up a new fog light switch and relay tomorrow so hopefully that'll sort the bloody thing out
If you're better than the leading brand, why aren't you the leading brand?

User avatar
el sketcho
Registered user
Posts: 151
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 21:00
80-90 Mem No: 5851
Location: West London

Re: MOT Failure

Post by el sketcho »

Right I've changed the relay and the switch yet still nothing. When everyone says about the earth behind the lights do they mean the earth wires next to the airfilter?
I'm really running out of ideas now and I've only got 3 more days before the free re-test runs out.
If you're better than the leading brand, why aren't you the leading brand?

fullsunian
Registered user
Posts: 1516
Joined: 01 Jun 2008, 23:46
80-90 Mem No: 5092
Location: Grantham

Re: MOT Failure

Post by fullsunian »

el sketcho wrote: 3. O/S & N/S indicators have secondary light in them which is not allowed (? it's been through other MOTs and no one's ever said anything. Might just take the side light bulbs out of them)
Would be interested to see exactly what it says on your V30 refusal of an MOT test certificate about this one.... Will have a look on the regs this afternoon. Only reason I can think of, is that when the side lamps are on it make the indicators flash too white...
IAN
Mmm what's that strange smell from my exhaust...

User avatar
toomanytoys
Trader
Posts: 2870
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 18:37
80-90 Mem No: 41
Location: Boston area, South Lincolnshire

Re: MOT Failure

Post by toomanytoys »

You need to check you are actually getting power to the light cluster... if not need to check from the relay, and to the relay...
clean the contacts on the bulb itself and in the holder.....

User avatar
el sketcho
Registered user
Posts: 151
Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 21:00
80-90 Mem No: 5851
Location: West London

Re: MOT Failure

Post by el sketcho »

toomanytoys wrote:You need to check you are actually getting power to the light cluster... if not need to check from the relay, and to the relay.....

I know this is gonna sound stupid but how do you that?
If you're better than the leading brand, why aren't you the leading brand?

Locked