How much oil in a 1.6 diesel? With/without filter change.

Post by **MacAoidh** » 08 Oct 2006, 10:09

Sorry, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'm not certain re changing filter at the same time.

How much oil goes into a 1.6 n/a diesel with filter change?

How much oil goes into a 1.6 n/a diesel without filter change?

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 14:01

3.5 without, 4.0 with...litres

lhd..............................

Post by **MacAoidh** » 08 Oct 2006, 14:20

I've just decided to switch on my brain and check the owner's manual, found the answer and came zipping back to the computer to delete my last posting...

But the manual says:
4.5 litres with oil change
4.0 litres without
for diesel (and petrol) engines.

Thanks lhd, but are you sure? Any other opinions?

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 18:25

That was what the bentley CD says........
I looked it up especially when I read your post.....
Ill take another look in case I'm going mad......

lhd.................................

Post by **Simon Baxter** » 08 Oct 2006, 18:32

For the cost of a Oil filter what is the point in doing a oil change without doing a filter? Especially on a Diesel!

4.5L with a filter.

Post by **MacAoidh** » 08 Oct 2006, 18:40

Simon Baxter wrote:For the cost of a Oil filter what is the point in doing a oil change without doing a filter? Especially on a Diesel!

I'm actually expecting to be doing multiple oil changes, because of an issue with the filler pipe. But thanks for the info, I've heard of people changing oil every 3K, filter every 6K, wondered if that made sense. Perhaps not, then.

Thanks as always.

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 19:03

Just rechecked the CD and it definitely says 3.5 & 4.0....diesel CS, 3.0 & 3.5 Aircooled and 4.0 & 4.5 watercooled.
Now I'm really confused as I know Simon knows his stuff...........
lhd............................

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 19:14

Just looked in another manual and it says 3.5 & 4.0 to febrauary 84.
4.0 & 4.5 after.......
Thats got me really worried now as it did not mention this in the bently CD and if they cant get a simple thing like that right, I might as well throw the CD away.............
Although mine is a 1983 so I guess it's ok for mine.
Can you confirm this Simon........
lhd......................................

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 19:26

FECKING CD....
It has just occured to me that my original Cs engine was replaced with a JP engine from a Golf, which I'm sure was manufactured after Feb 84.
Thus meaning, I have been gunning my baby with .5 of a litre less than it should have....
Watching this post has probably saved 5 years of engine life.
I wondered why even after a relatively early oil cange it looked like black treacle

They say don't believe everyting you read, now I know why...........

lhd.............................................................

Post by **monkeynut** » 08 Oct 2006, 20:42

4ltrs with filter I would go for castrol GTD magnatec

Post by **MacAoidh** » 08 Oct 2006, 20:45

Perhaps I should belatedly add that apparently my engine came out of a Caddy... Maybe I should get someone to look at it and tell me the engine code. I've never been able to find it.

Post by **bradcab** » 08 Oct 2006, 20:48

if your unsure, the routine is to fill up what u can in the oil filter before putting it on not forgetting to put a wet figers worth of oil on the seal!

And fill up slowly checking the dipstick as you fill up.
When you think its nearly at the level run the engine for a couple of minutes let it setle and recheck and fill to required level.

Only way to be sure.

Post by **lhd** » 08 Oct 2006, 21:02

4.5L with a filter.

4ltrs with filter I would go for castrol GTD magnatec

Phew..... at least i'm not the only one who has got it wrong......

lhd..........................

Post by **MacAoidh** » 09 Oct 2006, 09:58

bradcab wrote:And fill up slowly checking the dipstick as you fill up.

Unfortunately, I don't trust the accuracy of the dipstick...

Post by **lhd** » 09 Oct 2006, 20:22

Unfortunately, I don't trust the accuracy of the dipstick...

Same here, my van is a 1983 with a replacement engine which I believe was produced after feb 84, so if there is a differance in oil level before and after 1984 does any body know what the difference is?
I know the sump and ancilleries were taken from the original 1983 engine.
My thinking is that the difference is in the oil pump?
So hopefully the 3.5 & 4.0 is the way to go for me.
MacAoidh do you know the engine number as that will give you a date in which it was manufactured.
considering your van was produced after feb 1984 then as long as your engine was too I would hazard a guess the it's 4.0 & 4.5 for you.
As there are no other replies I think we are in this together.

as I know my engine number and vans production date I can phone VW and find out what the changes before and after feb 84 were.
I think that most of the diesels are more or less the same and will take a look to find where the engine number is located on your engine,
get back to you soon.....
Rob LHD......................