Repairs to my hi-top roof

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Repairs to my hi-top roof

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I've got myself another project van, this time an Autosleeper Trident :? [might be wrong as I've no idea really what it is]

Here's a diary of how I've re-fixed the hi-top roof back onto it. I did a lot of head-scratching before deciding on this route to fix it. I expect others will think its the wrong way, but I didn't fancy taking the roof off and there is very little corrosion on show so I doubt that there are any hidden horrors underneath it anyway.

I finished polishing the roof this week and I'm well pleased with how its turned out. The rest of the van is equally bad, so I shall begin replacing all the usual rusty panels & repaint the exterior & door shuts over the coming weeks [months if gets really cold :twisted: ]

If you are thinking of a way of re-fixing your roof, then this might be of use to you. It's worked for me anyway 8)

Here we go then:

The o/s of the van, showing some of the copious amounts of various sealers that have been put on over the years:

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And the n/s/r view. Note the green muck all over the roof:

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Holes cut in the n/s roof section, where the roof had completely parted company from the van's metal roof underneath. I [very dangerously, dont try this at home] used two p36 grit disks, back to back, to get into the old sealer and cut it out. It was so bad that I burnt the grinder out and had to by a new one :roll: The black looking sections are where I used Vactan to thoroughly seal the bare metal:

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Old Autosleeper factory sealer being cut off.

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New adhesive sealer applied [Sikaflex 226]

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Note how its oozing from the holes and gutter, from being clamped & screwed in.

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And another view of that:

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The old cut-outs put back in the homes again. Prior to this, I mixed some fibreglass resin up and put it in a new cheapo oil can and squirted it in the holes, either side so that it help seal everything and give a decent bond to the two parts. The cuts outs were fixed in with Sikaflex:

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Another view:

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Filled and sanded:

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One of the o/s of the van. It was nowhere near as bad, fortunately so had a deep clean, vactan'd and then re-sealed and clamped up to hold it it in place until the adhesive cured:

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The roof in primer [brush painted, 2 pack primer-filler, just to keep any moisture out at the time]

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I decided to re-seal it as I didn't like the little air bubbles in the sealer :roll: : Note the screw holes have been resin coated and then filled:

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One of the back top section of the roof, where the gel coat had gone south. I repaired it with fibreglass & resin, before putting some primer on to keep the moisture out:

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One of the n/s/r section of roof to body area. All ground clean of rust, vactann'd and brush primed:

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The o/s of the roof in spray 2 pack primer/filler

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Voila! A view of the n/s roof & gutter areas, sprayed in 2 pack top coat:

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And again:

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And one more:

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New Kentish Campers wrote:I've got myself another project van, this time an Autosleeper Trident :? [might be wrong as I've no idea really what it is]


I have an autosleeper trident (1989) and the roof is not the same as yours. Can't see enough of the interior so can't comment on that. Good luck with the resto :ok

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the "luggage" storage area on the rear of the roof is different than mine,the "ribs" run the opposite way to mine
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Yes it's clear to us 'sleeper owners that its not one of ours.. :D
I hope the non removal of the roof to address the corrosion doesn't come back and haunt you.
Speaking from experience.. the condensation traps up there have done their utmost to reduce the roof to iron oxide.

Nice job though..thanks for posting it up, it's a good way to seal the dang thing back up.
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Thanks for the info Gents. I wonder who converted it then?

Trouble is, there's no interior either so I have no idea at all.

I did think long and hard about not taking the roof off but from looking though the holes that I made, I could see the original metal inside which was good. And the front and rear hot spots for rust were seemingly good too; a little surface rust which easily ground out etc. The main thing now is that at least the roof is sound once again and not flapping about so I can get on with the rest of the bodywork; arches, steps, lower o/s sill & front panel, the usual stuff :roll:

The van itself looks much worse than it is due to it being left outside for a couple of years under some trees from the previous owner. It's a 1.9 petrol, I think a DF as its not got the usual 2e3 Pierburg carb on it. It runs very well though, surprisingly and there's heaps of service history with it too :)

E D I T: From reading the very useful article in the Camper section : https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=124261" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I reckon it's an Autohomes Komet, as it's roof windows are identical. I've no roof rack for it though so I still can't be 100% sure :(

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It is a Komet roof. The luggage rack bars are missing and I presume it was you who removed the windows? Can't say whether it is original to this van or has been 'donated' of a scrapper although a Komet also has a sliding window too and the body cuts for the fridge vents look about right.

Any pictures of the high top cupboards?
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Yes, thank you ,that confirms it. No luggage bars came with the van unfortunately so I might remove the tailgate ladder and not bother with any of it. Will see how it all goes.

I removed the windows to do the work. At some stage of its life, it's hit something to the n/s and the former opening window has been replaced with a fixed one instead so I'll have to replace that if I can get hold of one.
In fact, it looks to have hit a lot of things during its life as there was a load of old filler and fibreglass to the o/s [some of it is just visible in the o/s image] I had to cut it all out and re-do it all, best I could but it's all over the place though one good thing with these f/g roofs is that none of the surface is really flat so one ripple as as good as the next!

No pics of the interior I'm afraid, it's all been stripped out before I got it :(

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New Kentish Campers wrote:I might remove the tailgate ladder and not bother with any of it.
Why bother unless you mean to sell it? You'd have more bodywork to patch up.


New Kentish Campers wrote:No pics of the interior I'm afraid, it's all been stripped out before I got it :(
I don't mean the downstairs furniture, I mean the cupboards in the high top over the cab area. Or has all that been stripped out too? Lot of work for no reason if it has so would increase the chances of the roof having been donated off another van if it's missing.
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All of the interior furniture has been removed. I see what you mean about this being a lot of work, but I see it as more a blank canvas and as its nice mechanically, worth its worth saving, I think. And as for the ladder yes, more holes to weld-up but its all being resprayed anyway so I might take it off if I cant locate a roof rack thing for it.

I'll have a punt around to see if I can pick up an interior for it or even try my hand at making my own, as I've always fancied doing something like that.

I've still got my other van too :ok

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