Westie joker question. pictures added!

[keith]

is it a 1.6 turbo

[poptop2]

is it a 1.6 turbo

I don't know tbh - Are you saying turbo lump without turbo that has been dropped in later , because there is no turbo on it, i wasn't expecting turbo and never felt any turbo pull or kick in!

[keith]

no...just that it didn't look like a jx.

two types really...1.6 either td or n/a

n/a is very frugal but many would say a bit of a bind on acceleration / hills.

[poptop2]

no...just that it didn't look like a jx.

two types really...1.6 either td or n/a

n/a is very frugal but many would say a bit of a bind on acceleration / hills.

What does it look like to you?

I have no knowledge of vw diesels - Aircooled yes defo but diesel wasserboxers none at all!

They are sorting the split breather atm so i am not concerned about that for now!

[clift_d]

There's a picture of a 1.6 TD JX engine here

[poptop2]

There's a picture of a 1.6 TD JX engine here

Thanks - it doesn't look like that, the picture i have posted is looking down on it from the engine hatch last night so is has it is now!

[AdrianC]

The interior is very welll laid out i must confess i didn't realise Bilbo did t25 conversions especially rhd so i am guessing it is a custom conversion done in the uk by some uk confirm based on a uk van.

Bilbo _are_ British, aren't they?

It's certainly a conversion of a panel, rather than starting from a window van, though.

[poptop2]

The interior is very welll laid out i must confess i didn't realise Bilbo did t25 conversions especially rhd so i am guessing it is a custom conversion done in the uk by some uk confirm based on a uk van.

Bilbo _are_ British, aren't they?

It's certainly a conversion of a panel, rather than starting from a window van, though.

Is it a ex panel van- not a bus?

[AdrianC]

It's certainly a conversion of a panel, rather than starting from a window van, though.

Is it a ex panel van- not a bus?

Look at how the glass sits on the side panels. The seals sit proud of the surface, rather than flush, because there's no pressed recess for them.

Checking the plate comes back as "Transporter 78ps", 1588cc diesel. "Transporter" would imply van.

[poptop2]

It's certainly a conversion of a panel, rather than starting from a window van, though.

Is it a ex panel van- not a bus?

Look at how the glass sits on the side panels. The seals sit proud of the surface, rather than flush, because there's no pressed recess for them.

Checking the plate comes back as "Transporter 78ps", 1588cc diesel. "Transporter" would imply van.

Understood thanks - same as a bay then - well spotted

[poptop2]

Just chatting to some other vw owners and they seem to think the panel conversion and 1600 engine are minus's - economy is no better than my 1600 bay and the rot or rot potential with the panel van is quite high ( although there is no sign of rot now tbh) so i am stuck between

Sensible and practicle



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Cool and future issue's

My van as it is now

[AdrianC]

Just chatting to some other vw owners and they seem to think the panel conversion and 1600 engine are minus's

"1588cc 78ps" would imply it started off life with a JX turbo diesel, so before writing it off due to the engine (I may be wrong, but you seem to be assuming 1600 non-turbo CS - but that'd long since died before your van was built. By that age, the non-turbo would have been the 1.7 KY. Not fast, but friends report a genuine 40mpg on their European touring.

I'd suggest it's worth doing a bit more digging and figuring out what you're actually looking at. My (utterly non-expert on diesels) money's on a non-turbo 1.9 that's been dropped in. What did it go like on your test drive?

If there's no rot, then don't write it off because a converted panel might be more likely to rot than an originally window van. Hell, they're _both_ likely to rot this far down the line, and not just around the windows, so if it's a solid van it's a solid van. <shrug>

Either way, it HAS to be better than a Bay.

[keith]

I don't think its particularly cheap at 4.5K though....unless you said ^^^ somewhere that you can negotiate down.

I like your bay more

[poptop2]

Just chatting to some other vw owners and they seem to think the panel conversion and 1600 engine are minus's

"1588cc 78ps" would imply it started off life with a JX turbo diesel, so before writing it off due to the engine (I may be wrong, but you seem to be assuming 1600 non-turbo CS - but that'd long since died before your van was built. By that age, the non-turbo would have been the 1.7 KY. Not fast, but friends report a genuine 40mpg on their European touring.

I'd suggest it's worth doing a bit more digging and figuring out what you're actually looking at. My (utterly non-expert on diesels) money's on a non-turbo 1.9 that's been dropped in. What did it go like on your test drive?

If there's no rot, then don't write it off because a converted panel might be more likely to rot than an originally window van. Hell, they're _both_ likely to rot this far down the line, and not just around the windows, so if it's a solid van it's a solid van. <shrug>

Either way, it HAS to be better than a Bay.

No Not written off yet by a long chalk - i have to speak to the owner re price and some details on the engine before i decide anything.

Thank you for your input - invaluable!

[poptop2]

I don't think its particularly cheap at 4.5K though....unless you said ^^^ somewhere that you can negotiate down.

I like your bay more

it is a negotiable price but when i spoke to the actual owner on Friday about it he said ( i have not met him yet) he wanted closer to 5k i gulped and told him i would drive it and ring him, i have only gone and lost his blooming number now - so speak to him when i get to work and get his number off the mechanic again