How can I make my van faster up hills/ motorway ? PART 2

Post by **Paul R** » 19 Jun 2013, 09:24

sternal wrote:
is that okay to ask this question Ralf85 or is it deemed to be inappropriate

Depends if you're going to take any notice of the reply or go asking the same question again in a few days

No reason to pick on ralf85 with snide remarks, other people said the same or maybe like me thought it. Unless there have been posts deleted in this thread he wasn't rude, you called him an A Hole twice!

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 10:57

as I also said a few posts back about having the carbs refurbed !

I have been listening to all advice...booked in next week for the carbs to be refurbed ! If Id followed all the advice given it would have gone to a rolling road Id be £150 down and it wouldn't have made a difference and that advice came from the rolling road guy !

I appreciate all the advice given, but like most of us want to go about it in a manner that's not going to cost the earth or be ripped off which does happen...I'm a mechanic of bicycles and have been for over 15 years so see how other shops are ruthless with the public...my shop is not like that which is why we have a great return custom I'm afraid some of the VW mechanics are ruthless as with any trade I guess...

Post by **jason k** » 19 Jun 2013, 17:26

to be honest I resent that remark, its properly pissed me off.

you were told to visit a rolling road in order to diagnose and resolve your problems,

thing is now your refurbing your carbs without knowing if you actually needed to, just because some bloke told you to over the phone!

no offence but how the ferk does he know if the carbs on your van are shot or not WITHOUT SEEING IT?, so you could have wasted the refurb cost by not going there as directed.

hell the last van I saw had a bust head gasket, perhaps you should change that too before you go???

as of now I'm out, it seems your not satisfied whatever happens.

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 18:06

I'm not out to annoy anyone ! where's the love !

Re: How can I make my van faster up hills/ motorway ? PART 2

Postby AllenTheHat » Yesterday, 21:27
Following on from my post a few pages back.......where I had (have) a similar problem...

I got a set of Weber 34ICT carbs from VW Heritage for £369. I then got a local guy to do my timing, install carbs and tune (this happened today) and hey presto I gained almost 20mph on my top end speed.

I only took it out for a 20 minute drive after picking it up, but it has made quite a difference. I shall be putting it through its paces overe the next few days.

no mention of rolling road from this guy (i dont think)

I understand what you are saying about a rolling road, its been adjusted timing etc and made no difference to performance if it goes on a rolling road and they do exactly the same as a mechanic with the timing etc whats the point in spending £150 its got to the point that everything has been checked including adjusting timing and carbs its got to be trail and error time...the guy from performance engineering which was recommended on here to use (rolling road ) said exactly the same thing dont waste your money till youve done the carbs cos youve tried adjusting etc and its made no difference !

jeez if I want abuse ill ask the mrs !

Post by **mark** » 19 Jun 2013, 19:34

you wait for an answer that means less effort. you are not saving a penny, you are being led by what you want to hear.... the rolling road in question will rejet your carbs as part of the process and I doubt very much that they told you replace/ rebuild them, a single worn or partially blocked jet could be causing your issue. you think everyone is out to have your pants down, so what if you go to the rolling road and your carbs are u/s they will know within 20mins, so £50 to know for definite, spend £350+ on carbs and carry on with this useless twaddle.
what we know is the timing is fine? the cam is a tooth out? the carbs are worn out? what next!!!!!! a worn push rod on the fuel pump? a length of fuel hose too small a diameter? a bend in the carb linkage? a badly adjusted accelerator cable? the wrong accelerator cable fitted? a kink in the accelerator cable? the hand brake dragging? the brakes binding 1 of 4 or any number of 4? wrong size wheels? wrong size tyres? wrong gearbox fitted? have you checked the engine code? all of these things will be apparent to an expert the one I recommended earlier, who take part in regular tune up days for the split screen van club, and would welcome a day organised by your good self for all the a/c t25s within say 50 miles of you that are members of the club( you'd have to join the club though, but it might be expensive with all the hidden charges). do you really think they would risk their reputation by having a goon from north london over.
mark

E D I T... I have been a member of the split screen van club for 14yrs and in all that time I have never heard of them telling anyone to replace carbs, they have said bring it down and we'll find out what is wrong with it. if you read the link you would have noticed the poorly bug that was running on two that they got to bottom of.
mark

sternal wrote:I'm not out to annoy anyone

Post by **Ralf85** » 19 Jun 2013, 19:43

mark richards wrote: you wait for an answer that means less effort. you are not saving a penny, you are being led by what you want to hear.... the rolling road in question will rejet your carbs as part of the process and I doubt very much that they told you replace/ rebuild them, a single worn or partially blocked jet could be causing your issue. you think everyone is out to have your pants down, so what if you go to the rolling road and your carbs are u/s they will know within 20mins, so £50 to know for definite, spend £350+ on carbs and carry on with this useless twaddle.
what we know is the timing is fine? the cam is a tooth out? the carbs are worn out? what next!!!!!! a worn push rod on the fuel pump? a length of fuel hose too small a diameter? a bend in the carb linkage? a badly adjusted accelerator cable? the wrong accelerator cable fitted? a kink in the accelerator cable? the hand brake dragging? the brakes binding 1 of 4 or any number of 4? wrong size wheels? wrong size tyres? wrong gearbox fitted? have you checked the engine code? all of these things will be apparent to an expert the one I recommended earlier, who take part in regular tune up days for the split screen van club, and would welcome a day organised by your good self for all the a/c t25s within say 50 miles of you that are members of the club( you'd have to join the club though, but it might be expensive with all the hidden charges). do you really think they would risk their reputation by having a goon from north london over.
mark

E D I T... I have been a member of the split screen van club for 14yrs and in all that time I have never heard of them telling anyone to replace carbs, they have said bring it down and we'll find out what is wrong with it. if you read the link you would have noticed the poorly bug that was running on two that they got to bottom of.
mark

sternal wrote:I'm not out to annoy anyone

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 19:46

mark thats all fair stuff, engine code/gear box are the correct ones, its not £50 its £150 for the rolling road at power engineering and over an hour away.

to rebuild carbs im looking at £250 all in, I dont think im out to be done just trying to be aware of what it could be or not and so far eliminated some of the stuff, cam tooth out is unlikely, brakes not dragging, its getting full throttle...

my mechanic who has several hotrods and is clued up on carbs is convinced this is the cause.

I think I'm public enemy number one on this forum !

Post by **Ralf85** » 19 Jun 2013, 19:52

We have all wasted our time trying to help this bozo guys. Time to ignore him/her/whatever now and help those that want to listen! This has got to be a windup! So annoying from a non member when we have so many genuine people who at least are members of the club and follow good advice! Time to stop being sucked in.

Anybody watching Brazil v Mexico? Much more interesting.

Post by **mark** » 19 Jun 2013, 20:02

the thing is, is that you don't know what's wrong with it, your mates having a best guess, £250 and then take to the rolling to get them set up and they could well need the correct jets fitting. find out the problem and fix it.

now my head is hurting from banging it against this wall and as my learned friend said earlier im out

mark

sternal wrote:mark thats all fair stuff, engine code/gear box are the correct ones, its not £50 its £150 for the rolling road at performance engineering and over an hour away.

to rebuild carbs im looking at £250 all in, I dont think im out to be done just trying to be aware of what it could be or not and so far eliminated some of the stuff, cam tooth out is unlikely, brakes not dragging, its getting full throttle...

my mechanic who has several hotrods and is clued up on carbs is convinced this is the cause.

I think I'm public enemy number one on this forum !

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 20:06

j;io;ioiop

Post by **billybigspud** » 19 Jun 2013, 20:59

Just read through this whole and what an irritating thread. I cannot see why you bother posting as you obviously do not listen to anyone on here but I am going to try.
I had some major issues with my 2.0 cu to the point where it would not go above 15mph and was cutting out on hills as I was trying to nurse it home. Took it to a bloke near me who runs a 350bhp notch with an Aircooled engine in it so I knew he was the bloke. Cost me £100 and I have seen 80mph on the clock. I drive at 60-65 and it can drop to 45 to 50 on hills. Still running on solexes although the vacuum set up is strange and not like any other I have seen.
Find a bloke that really knows what he is doing, tell him what has been done and if he says he can fix it then get him to do it but do not pay him unless he does. I dont charge people if I cannot fix things when I am called out so I do not see why garages get away with it.
You could probably get another half decent unit for £400 anyway.
What size wheels and tyres do you have on it?

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 21:13

I have listed to all your advice not sure why im being picked on all I havnt done is the rolling road as yet ! jeez

Not sure any mechanic would agree to that !

Tyres are 185/14 bridgstone van type

Post by **AllenTheHat** » 19 Jun 2013, 21:48

Hi Sternal,

This thread is just one of those threads where nobody can say for sure until someone who is in the know takes a look. Wether you spend out on a rolling road or a mechanic who knows his Aircooled from his oil cooled.... <---- its a joke, dont hurt me. The point being to be a camper owner you have got to be willing to spend out. Its part of the ownership and the word moneypit gets thrown around whenever you talk to a camper owner.

All in all it has set me back £550ish for the carbs and for them to be installed and tuned. You may pay more or less, that depends on the garage.

I know my way around an engine but I got delivered a box of nuts, bolts and two carbs so I left it to someone who new where they all went.

Remember, every mechanic or armchair mechanic will have an opinion albeit correct, partly correct, a guess or way off the mark. Just listen to what everyone says, and then all you can do it make your own choice.

Post by **sternal** » 19 Jun 2013, 21:53

Just listen to what everyone says, and then all you can do it make your own choice.

thanks AllenTheHat

Post by **sternal** » 20 Jun 2013, 10:07

I spoke to Power engineering but a different guy (uxbridge) explained the situation, he also said don't waste your money coming here till you've have had the carbs rebuilt.