2E More Ponies!!

[Gaz70]

Guys i currently have a 2E fitted into my Whitestar, was after some advice on tuning the engine vs a engine swap.. A logical route would be to swap the Cylnder Head port/polished if budget allows bigger valves with a slight high lift cam (nothing too mental) Newmans 268.. Cant find much info on this for a t25 plenty of advice for a Golf
Also look at gearbox ratio as gap between 3rd to 4th seems to long!!
Or swap for a 1.8t but this route seems to be the expensive route?

[Kermit'skeeper]

Hi Gaz, is the 2e an 8 valve gti type engine?
If it is I've got a hardly used piper 270 cam and set of hydraulic lifters (done about 500 miles) that you could buy at handy money. The cam was a new one not a regrind. P.M. me if interested.

[Gaz70]

Hey Kermit, yes it is 8v gti, just looking at options at present. Did you have your piper cam fitted to your Van, what sort of gains did you get?

[Kermit'skeeper]

It was fitted in a mk2 scirocco so slightly different power to weight characteristics. It gave good all round improvements, not a peaky cam so should be good for your purpose.

[ELVIS]

Buy and fit the 270!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO IT!

I fitted a Newman 268 in my T3 gti conversion and it REALLY woke the engine up.

Bags of low end torque, didnt affect idle , nice and smooth. As long as you stay below 274 ish you'll be fine.

DO IT DO IT DO IT! Can not enthuse how much this simple/cheap upgrade changed the engine - best mod per £ ive ever done.

Did i mention it really woke engine up and added at least 150 bhp and made me more attractive to girls?*




*might be an exaggeration

[Kermit'skeeper]

Elvis is right.
I was single and lonely before I fitted the cam but once installed and correctly timed I was beating women off with a s***ty stick. It also improved the engine.

[Gaz70]

So to recap just upgrade the Cam 268/270 dont worry about cylnder head, and i will never sleep alone again?

[Kermit'skeeper]

Yes that's an accurate assessment. If only geeky teenage boys knew about the Piper/Newman effect, they wouldn't waste so much of their spare money on Lynx, they would have a faster Saxo and a string of attractive, horny girls to pander to their every whim.

[ELVIS]

I spent quite some time researching it and all the options. You COULD do the cylinder head but for what? You want low/mid range torque not big BHP (although yes there is a correlation) so dont bother with big valaves IMHO, You could spend £500 on a QUALITY head job *snigger* but its the old law of diminishing returns. Secondhand cam is £100. A £500 head wont give 5 times the increase in performance/power/bhp/torque/smiles. A £100 head job will probably see you with a knackered head.

Bung in a cam around 270/272 and you'll be grinning like the proverbial jap.

Have a nosey on clubgti.com in the 8v section, plenty of knowledgeable bods and plenty of threads/facts/figues

[ELVIS]

And when i fitted my cam i was beating the blurt off with a big stick!

[garyd]

Elvis,
from your experience with the 270 cam, does it deliver the extra power in a way that can be beneficial on fuel consumption? That is, driven sensibly/gently, could one expect see a few more miles per gallon?

Does the same cam fit the AGG engine as well?

cheers

Garyd

[ELVIS]

L o chap!

The Hydraulic mk2 cam will fit all Mk2/3s PB/2E/AGG. Think only difference is later ones(head) obviously had extra cam cap.

Was talking about this today funnily enough and i still maintain IMHO that is one of the best £/bang upgrades i have ever done. DEFFO does what it says on the box and bags more torque low/mid.Just stay sensible - around 270 , can spend ages comparing them all for what has best lift , IIRC the Newman ones are alledgedly Schrick copies which is meant to be one of the best profiles about.

I cant' honestly say that i did a before/after MPG comparison but i dont think it had any noticeable effect, possibly for first few weeks like any mod, you will be spanking it a little bit with a cheeky grin BUT even if there was a decrease (1) It would be marginal (2) the benefits gained (especially in a syncro) would IMHo far outweigh the rise in consumption.

[max and caddy]

Ere..I have a camshaft ligging at my mums out of a PB or maybe a EV....it's a TSR one from when they were a worthy company...I will sell...

[max and caddy]

Elvis is right.
I was single and lonely before I fitted the cam but once installed and correctly timed I was beating women off with a s***ty stick. It also improved the engine.

If only this was the brickyard...I could re phrase that statement for you in such a sordid manner...shame...

[Titus A Duxass]

Holy Fred Resurrection Batman!

Just a quick question - I want to fit a Schrick 270 cam but can only find them new - are they worth lashing out 250€ for?

Cheers
TAD