Relay help needed
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Re: Relay help needed
I have factory fit fogs but that relay socket is empty on mine.
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Re: Relay help needed
Have you tried just taking it out and sticking the buzzer relay in? You never know maybe a previous owner stuck it in hoping he'd get a headlight buzzer but got the wrong one.
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? It happens. A lot.
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? It happens. A lot.
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Re: Relay help needed
Palomino.If not in slot No7.Where is the relay for your fogs situated on your board?
LeeMe3.The buzzer is installed and working fine.The relay that was there is not the buzzing type.
LeeMe3.The buzzer is installed and working fine.The relay that was there is not the buzzing type.
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Re: Relay help needed
R0B wrote:Palomino.If not in slot No7.Where is the relay for your fogs situated on your board?
Don't know I'm afraid but it could be an independent relay rather like the high beam switch which is just behind the headlights.
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Re: Relay help needed
That relay is for the fog lights. I know because I've just fitted mine as per VW/Haynes Manual wiring diagram

Relay position 7 according to the above wiring diagram

I think your van must have had front fogs at some point Rob as if your van only had a rear fog fitted VW diverted the grey/yellow wire (B20) to the 'M' connector on the back of the relay box thereby dispensing with the need for the relay.

Unless of course your van being a Caravelle and mine being a panelvan changes that but I can't see them fitting a relay unless they were going to fit front fogs too hence my money's on yours having been removed at some point.
I was thinking of detailing the wiring/relay modification in the wiki but I don't have access and even if I did I don't know how to.....

Relay position 7 according to the above wiring diagram

I think your van must have had front fogs at some point Rob as if your van only had a rear fog fitted VW diverted the grey/yellow wire (B20) to the 'M' connector on the back of the relay box thereby dispensing with the need for the relay.

Unless of course your van being a Caravelle and mine being a panelvan changes that but I can't see them fitting a relay unless they were going to fit front fogs too hence my money's on yours having been removed at some point.
I was thinking of detailing the wiring/relay modification in the wiki but I don't have access and even if I did I don't know how to.....
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Re: Relay help needed
Bren.I dont think its ever had fogs fitted.As later vans had holes drilled in the front panel for the brackets.And mine has no holes.
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Re: Relay help needed
Must be a caravelle/panelvan thing then. My relay position 7 was empty but the rear fog still worked due to that grey/yellow cable being diverted to the 'M' connection. I've now reconnected it to the floating grey/yellow from the B20* connector and fitted the relay.


This allowed the rear fog to operate via the relay and also allowed me to run new cabling for my front fogs off the C22 connector by fitting a suitable crimped female pin into the yellow 'C' connector block.

If you have cabling leaving C22 the wiring for the front fogs will be present in your van even if the spots themselves are missing - wish mine had been that simple. Bottom line is it's the relay for your fogs and if you pull it out I'd bet the rear fog won't work. If that IS the case, why not reverse engineer your wiring back to my previous arrangement where the grey/yellow feed connects to the 'M' connector therby freeing up position 7 so you can plug the buzzing thing in in it's place? Might be worth a shot since you don't have front fogs fitted and the rear can operate without the relay...
*E D I T: I wrote B16 when I meant B20.


This allowed the rear fog to operate via the relay and also allowed me to run new cabling for my front fogs off the C22 connector by fitting a suitable crimped female pin into the yellow 'C' connector block.

If you have cabling leaving C22 the wiring for the front fogs will be present in your van even if the spots themselves are missing - wish mine had been that simple. Bottom line is it's the relay for your fogs and if you pull it out I'd bet the rear fog won't work. If that IS the case, why not reverse engineer your wiring back to my previous arrangement where the grey/yellow feed connects to the 'M' connector therby freeing up position 7 so you can plug the buzzing thing in in it's place? Might be worth a shot since you don't have front fogs fitted and the rear can operate without the relay...
*E D I T: I wrote B16 when I meant B20.
Last edited by 1664 on 02 Jul 2012, 08:26, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Relay help needed
Yep your correct bren.The rear fog does not work now the relay has been removed.I will connect to the "m" connector.Cheers mate.


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