WBX-to-inline adaptor plate

[silverbullet]

"Never knowingly ripped off"

[mm289]

Haven't you ever heard of R & D.........


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[silverbullet]

Actually this one has evolved quite a bit recently. Looks like it was intended to be used with a custom flywheel (based on wbx one but drilled for inline petrol application) but since this is for a factory standard Passat 1Y diesel, we're going a different (VW Lego) route as the torque output will be quite modest. The customer wants simplicity, reliability and long life with it fitted to a standard transmission and no "funny" service parts or electrickery.

Makes a change!

[billy739]

i had one of these from a bug a few years ago , made a good profit selling it , but always regretted it!

my onlt issue was to see how the petrol starter turns a diesel!

[waltraud]

This mayu seema bit thick but would that adaptor basically mean being able to bolt in an AEF or AAG for example but only needing the addition of Diesel engine mounting bars and engine mounts (and exhaist etc of course) but no diesel belhousing, input shaft or .......basically if it means being able to do this sort of engien swap quicker, cheaper?? and with less hassle than a WBX to TD or TDi then it sounds fab and i'd be up for it no doubt. It could revolutionise the fitting of sensible cheap engines when most folks cant afford a properly rebuilt WBX. Do you have any thoughts about whether you might realistically do it Silverbullet?

[billy739]

you will stil need to use custom mounts as they will be in a slightly different place.
you will also need to lift he hatch on van for clearence - something i have been slated for with my peugeot conversions!

air filter pipes and exhaust will need making
some of tyhe hoses may not fit either

but as you say at least you dont need the sump

[waltraud]

Hmmm, that does not seem so much of a saving now you describe it!

[silverbullet]

No unpleasant oil surge problems with an upright installation, quite desireable on a syncro and no bad thing on a tuned road bus

[zed]

Just to get this clear in my head. with this plate I could potentialy bolt another petrol engine to my current auto box setup? I don't want to lose the auto, if I ever change the engine to some thing a little more modern.

[silverbullet]

I haven't even considered autos but it could be possible with a spacer for the drive plate and an extension for the crank spigot bearing. If you've got a healthy 2.1 then why not consider upgrading to modern sequential injection (not speedshop though, it's not true sequential) I reckon it's the way forward for wbx's.

[zed]

2.1!
I wish

1.9dg I'm afraid thanks for the update and advice

[silverbullet]

Well this project has been chuntering on for a good long while, looks like it may not be viable for mega-torque Tdi motors as the clutch is a limiting factor (as ever) and the cost of the special 2kW reduction-geared starter is quite strong at the better part of £300...but it's worked out ok for the 1Y engine in a truck, last thing I heard!

I am going to take what we've learned and investigate making a "universal" 20 degree bellhousing, drilled/dowelled for both 4 and 5 cylinder engine bolt patterns that will use the later starter position alongside the engine, so freeing up the design from being tied up by the T3 starter location over the transmission. It will also allow use of an appropriate standard Audi flywheel, so no odd-ball custom ones or balancing problems.

I know it's possible since there was an earlier Audi transaxle that had just this feature, the sting being that the bellhousing is cast-in-one with the front part of the transmission casing so cannot be simply adapted...

More info as it progresses.