MAJOR corrosion trap alert.....

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 06 Dec 2005, 22:44

You can see it here as I'm not frigging about with copy and paste right now.

Post by **HarryMann** » 06 Dec 2005, 23:51

Fookin blinkin Hell mun, Hehe!

Now I know who had my patented 'box-section de-silting hose vacuum attachment' away at Bristol... and my 3 foot probing rods

Diamond 'corrosion killer' Hell

Seriously, now you've opened it up, got good access, dried it all up, and wire-brushed it all up - go for Eastwoods' Rust Encapsulator - you know it makes sense

Then maybe a yearly Waxoyl...

So... whaddya reckon? Plug those holes when sploshing about, unplug them in the heat of summer?

Body/Sill/Floor plugs and end caps

Ovals:

251 899 185 2/85 - 7/92 Satin Black (01C) 17 x 32 mm
211 809 507 12.5 x 26 mm

Rounds:

803 803 583 B 40 mm
253 857 785 (01C) M10
181 971 908 B 19,5 mm
311 867 235 (01C) CAP 32,2 mm

P.S. Isn't that section open all around the join to the two main longerons, plus the service through-hole. Nice to see the inside in the flesh though Thomas, Tyger's 'seems' alright, but where it slopes up to meet the rear frame behind it, either side, the sloping floor was perforated. Any more detail photos appreciated, BusGoofs or here..

Post by **matt** » 07 Dec 2005, 07:28

Fookin blinkin Hell mun, Hehe!

Post by **Cate** » 07 Dec 2005, 08:06

Flush good and proper after dunking and mud collecting!
But Clive! we know you haven't cleaned yours for ages don't we!

Post by **toomanytoys** » 07 Dec 2005, 08:40

My 2wd seems to collect mud there too.. not in quite the same way, but the holes have been blocked on a couple of occasions..

I suppose I should check the syncro.. and seeming as it has a few smaller holes in odd places where the drains have blocked.. I might be in for a shock!!

and thats apart from the rusty B pillar I already have..

I'll dig out a pic..

Post by **toomanytoys** » 07 Dec 2005, 09:04

Here is a couple of pics you can get your hand in the B pillar in the arch... and the seem is rotten all the way down inc the step..

Post by **toomanytoys** » 07 Dec 2005, 09:09

EH? wheres my pics gone!!!

Post by **missusjen** » 07 Dec 2005, 09:50

That is rough rust Si!! Bloomin eck..........

Post by **toomanytoys** » 07 Dec 2005, 10:02

You can see the pics then? Must be our server here not letting me see them..

Yep, not nice.. but its all down to that part being replaced a few years abo.. not sealed properly and rusting from day 1.. the right hand arch is mint and original..

I wonder how bad a job I am gonna make of it!!

Post by **HarryMann** » 07 Dec 2005, 11:32

Yep, not nice.. but its all down to that part being replaced a few years abo..

That's true Si, wherever bodywork, welding, replacement panels have been done, you can as good as guarantee it's half-life.

Whilst i think Thomas' right about flushing box section out after wading, I think for most its far too late for that.
Once its like his red one, all you are going to do is re-slurry it all and re wet it, taking weeks to dry again, and never wash it all out.

Once really dry, well into summer, I would rod it to loosen it up and knock and vacuum out. I'm pretty sure I've managed this well enough on one of mine and then initially sprayed in there.
Use thick fencing wire, round the ends off so it doesn't scratch too much, or loop it over. A few different lengths, and a rubber hose (heater hose is about right) on the vacuum wedge tool seems to be the business.
But if there are those large rust flakes in there, like you can see in Thom's photos, then they'll not be coming out and be blocking the vac all the time - then cut the floor open if you're a welder like Thomas.

I'd judge Thomas' to be extra bad, and as he says, waded, mudplugged a helluva lot. The problem with mine was that it had been once or twice early in life but never cleaned, so went in different areas.
We should really build a rust library - I've got a few hundred photos by now

Si's B pillars, interesting. The door pillar access holes down to that dodgy to re-weld plate inside the jacking point - always rod around and vacuum that out too, and where sills meet front and rear jacking points, always seem to go there too.

If there's dust/muck/silt anywhere - there'll be DAMP hanging around in winter too...

Behind panels like wheel arches, if you ever see dry or flaky surface rust, jump for joy, 'cos that's telling you where the problem will occurr - quick wire brush or rotary twist knot, another one of those thowaway brushes (10 for poond, in't £1 shop) and a splosh of Rust Encapsulator at £25/litre! Clean and fill the rear of seams with it too... but must be dry and grease free.

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 07 Dec 2005, 11:40

You ever thought about becoming a Dyno-Rod agent, Clive?

Post by **HarryMann** » 07 Dec 2005, 11:45

I might have to soon...

and I'm told it's a very fulfilling occupation

Post by **Cate** » 07 Dec 2005, 11:49

Talking of rusty points, my steps are more hole than metal/rust, anyone heard how Schofields are getting on with aquiring new ones? Desperatly need new ones for February.
If you start a rust library, call me.

Post by **toomanytoys** » 07 Dec 2005, 15:33

They are looking into it...
But someone told me the arches they do are no better than JK ones... ie, from the same source..

Get some from VW...!!
Aiden got me the prices of the parts I need, not that bad really..