Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
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Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Are there any add ons or tuning tricks i can do to get more power out of my 1.9 dg petrol motor?
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G
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Swap it for a 2.1 

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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Was thinking of something a bit less extreme boys
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
You've clearly got a case of 'bought the wrong van' syndrome
Simplest solution is to swap it for a 2.1. Do NOT be conned into fitting a Webber in a vain attempt to gain magical power ... it ain't going to happen, plus you'll need a filling station every 100 miles or so
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
lol. No the van is now part of the family wouldnt swop it now not after all the work ive done to it. I was just wondering if there was an easy tweek out there but not by the looks of itIan Hulley wrote:You've clearly got a case of 'bought the wrong van' syndrome![]()
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is swopping it for a 2.1 a straight swap?
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Fit some Dellorto DRLA carburettors
might be cheaper getting a 2.1 though
You see a 2.1 is basically a 1.9.
VW released an extra 40 odd BHP by making it a long stroke engine. ie it sucks longer, squeezes more, bangs bigger, and blows longer.. 112 BHP makes a world of difference
your 1.9 DG ancillaries bolt on to the 2.1 DJ casing including the inlet manifold and carburettor, it's physically the same size, but gives you loads of usable power.
Imagine a world where you don't change gear to go up a 4% gradient, but actually accelerate up it

might be cheaper getting a 2.1 though
You see a 2.1 is basically a 1.9.
VW released an extra 40 odd BHP by making it a long stroke engine. ie it sucks longer, squeezes more, bangs bigger, and blows longer.. 112 BHP makes a world of difference
your 1.9 DG ancillaries bolt on to the 2.1 DJ casing including the inlet manifold and carburettor, it's physically the same size, but gives you loads of usable power.
Imagine a world where you don't change gear to go up a 4% gradient, but actually accelerate up it

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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Nice one Kev,
How much would you expect to pay for a 2.1 motor?
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How much would you expect to pay for a 2.1 motor?
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£500 to £600 for a non leaker with lowish mileage
I got one from a van breaker swapped it in a day.
I got one from a van breaker swapped it in a day.
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Cheers for the advice all. Just have to keep an eye out now for a good one
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Hello,
Just been reading your thread....
With all these wonderful fellows on the forum, I'm a bit disappointed to see that the modern answer to engine tuning seems to be, 'stick a bigger engine in.' So american....
What happened to skimming the flywheel,grinding in the cylinders, polishing the ports, improve the breathing ,maximise the carbs, you know, all the stuff that costs next to nothing.
That's VW tuning.
Cordialement,

Just been reading your thread....
With all these wonderful fellows on the forum, I'm a bit disappointed to see that the modern answer to engine tuning seems to be, 'stick a bigger engine in.' So american....

What happened to skimming the flywheel,grinding in the cylinders, polishing the ports, improve the breathing ,maximise the carbs, you know, all the stuff that costs next to nothing.


That's VW tuning.


Cordialement,


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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
sarran1955 wrote: I'm a bit disappointed to see that the modern answer to engine tuning seems to be, 'stick a bigger engine in.' So american....![]()
What happened to skimming the flywheel,grinding in the cylinders, polishing the ports, improve the breathing ,maximise the carbs, you know, all the stuff that costs next to nothing.![]()
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That lot would cost more and take longer than sticking a pre-loved DJ in it ... then again you could do all that to a DJ instead

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Sarran
Yes that's tuning, making it run better and more efficiently ... not increasing horse power in a great barrow full
More bhp from a 1.9 is only achievable in realistic usable amounts by better breathing and fuelling, you say next to nothing.. Delorto carburettors are £600 to buy... but I doubt that the dizzy heights of an extra 40 BHP would be achieved in a one stop hit like fitting an engine that has already had the work done by a development team from VW.
I'm sure if VW were to have not caved in to customer requirements the VW flat four would have developed into a scooby slayer of an engine, as it is Subaru did it without them.
So a Subaru flat four is another way to increase power to levels unimagined.
Again physically similar but far more intricate in running with a lot of electric wizardry to make it powerful... doubling the power to 140 BHP
That would cost about £2000+ with the doner car and things to mate Japan with West Germany
Yes that's tuning, making it run better and more efficiently ... not increasing horse power in a great barrow full
More bhp from a 1.9 is only achievable in realistic usable amounts by better breathing and fuelling, you say next to nothing.. Delorto carburettors are £600 to buy... but I doubt that the dizzy heights of an extra 40 BHP would be achieved in a one stop hit like fitting an engine that has already had the work done by a development team from VW.
I'm sure if VW were to have not caved in to customer requirements the VW flat four would have developed into a scooby slayer of an engine, as it is Subaru did it without them.
So a Subaru flat four is another way to increase power to levels unimagined.
Again physically similar but far more intricate in running with a lot of electric wizardry to make it powerful... doubling the power to 140 BHP
That would cost about £2000+ with the doner car and things to mate Japan with West Germany
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
Hi ,
i put a recon 2.1 in my van to replace the 1.9. it does make a difference, although i wouldnt say it made 40bhp of difference. its much better on hills and generally nicer to drive AND the best thing is it seems to do a bit better of juice! i am happy with it.. the engine cost £900 form vw elite and it cost about £400 to fit by steve at gasure in chester. it is just a straigtht swap, but the only thing that's different is an oil cooler is needed which was easily done.
hope this helps
i put a recon 2.1 in my van to replace the 1.9. it does make a difference, although i wouldnt say it made 40bhp of difference. its much better on hills and generally nicer to drive AND the best thing is it seems to do a bit better of juice! i am happy with it.. the engine cost £900 form vw elite and it cost about £400 to fit by steve at gasure in chester. it is just a straigtht swap, but the only thing that's different is an oil cooler is needed which was easily done.
hope this helps
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Re: Stock 1.9 petrol power up?
mrhoneybird wrote:although i wouldnt say it made 40bhp of difference.
mrhoneybird wrote: it does make a difference, its much better on hills and generally nicer to drive AND the best thing is it seems to do a bit better on juice!
er er....... well thats what 40 BHP does.. what did you expect... gut wrenching acceleration

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