Respray paint options

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 15 Jun 2006, 21:55

I'm going to sort out the rust on my wagon and give it a respray. It'll be an outside job (weather and insects permitting). What options are available to me apart from crappy cellulose. I did explore the Tekaloid (hand painting) idea but the suppliers did say its a pig to work with and I'm fine with a spray gun.

Given that auto paints have evolved in more recent years what would you guys (and lasses) suggest or is my only choice cellusose?

Cheers

Post by **djsalt** » 16 Jun 2006, 13:37

i recently purchased 5L of Mettalic Silver 2k acrylic + 2.5L hardener + thinner from this seller on ebay: "e-buy-paint-equipment"
Seemed very professional and its what it says on the tins

btw the whole lot cost me £80 (including free gravity fed spray gun)
I havent sprayed the whole van yet as i bent a valve or something the other week and havent had it fixed yet.

Post by **Kermit** » 16 Jun 2006, 19:52

Hey...whats wrong with cellulose?

Just about to respray mine shortly and have got 3 Lts of Bamboo Yellow ... in cellulose

Kerr

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 16 Jun 2006, 20:50

go 2 pac, its 21st century, celly is so 70s, its good for that retro original look but if you want shiny, tough paint its 2k. it is going to be banned soon so do it now......

Post by **Horney** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:16

And if your gonna paint with 2pak look up the amount of safety gear you need. It's evil stuff and you should paint wearing a proper air fed mask. Hence why it's becoming illegal.

THere's nowt wrong with celly just make sure you do your prep work and keep flatting it back between coats and you can get a perfect finish. Just take slonger and more effort.

Me? I'm gonna hand paint mine Nato Matt Green

Nick

Post by **MikeB** » 16 Jun 2006, 22:35

Cellulose will give you a bugger of a headache if you breathe it in (trust me on that one) , 2-pack may well kill you if you inhale too much (I can't speak from personal experience there, obviously).

Mike.

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 17 Jun 2006, 21:36

I'm not sure about 2-pack. Presumably I'm less likely to suffer effects of that if sprayed outdoors?

djsalt:

I found ""e-buy-paint-equipment" and am considering the single pack synthetic enamel (seems the easiest way to do this). It has a good gloss build and tough surface. Limited colours but seems ideal to me. Thanks.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/E-Buy-Paint-and-Equipment

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 18 Jun 2006, 13:30

of course its up to you, but if your unsure on mixing the thinners, hardener etc its best to use celly, but cellulose thinners are the most aggressive thing in the world and will react with everything (everything)..... make sure everything is clean, use panel wipe and tack rags or you will get tired of flatting and repainting if done outdoors airborne contamination is a nightmare. if there is filler everywhere you could use synthetic, its a tenner a litre, it wont crack and you can spray it on just about anything!!!!

Post by **excalibur** » 18 Jun 2006, 16:26

synthetic will go over any other paint surface, and is commonly used on trucks.

But if you are spraying it outside, remember it is enamel paint and will take hours to dry so therefore more likely to get insects and bugs stuck to it.

Also you cant flat it down or t cut it so need a perfect result straight from the gun.

Stick with celly, dries quick, easy to spray, and if you give a final coat of 80% thinners 20% paint you will get a pretty good finish

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 20 Jun 2006, 07:39

i painted a type 2 outside last summer with sythetic (old english) as soon as it was going on it was almost dry without "dry" areas, flash off in 10 mins for another coat. if you want good paint, pay extra for it. im doing a lambretta and a westy t25 now, the westy is a solid vw colour (so 2 pac it is), and the scrot is red over white (nightfire)met, so it had to be clear over base if i want it to look good. the t25 paint cost me £40 a litre, but it does go on well and only needs a couple of coats... dont worry too much about bugs landing etc, use tweezers to get them off while its still wet(the legs wont come off though) when the paint has hardened you can gently flat them out with 1500 and apply more coats... just practice first, even the odd run or sag can be flatted out when the paint has gone off, you will find enjoyable(EVENTUALLY) after the anger, frustration,tears etc !!

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 20 Jun 2006, 08:37

Cheers WEAZLECHIN - you've enthused me over the synthetic approach. I never thought of tweezers! Standing ready with a fly swat might be good too. Mind you, the Garibladi look may have its merits. Could just nickname my bus 'The Fly' and make a feature of it. The supplier seems to have 'Gentian Blue' and 'Air Force Blue' as standard choices. Gentian it is then!

Post by **west E** » 22 Jun 2006, 16:55

[/url]http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread ... ge=1&pp=10

this link is good if r after a cheap option.

Website · Post by **CovKid** » 23 Jun 2006, 08:54

I'm impressed by that link!

Most of these guys (and lasses I might add) seemed to have used rollers from B&Q and combi-colour enamel from tooledup.com - a hard UV resistant paint with a high gloss. You'd assume that it would be impossible to acheive such a finish without spraying but clearly I'm wrong. The thinners are whitespirit based which makes things a tadge easier. The purple type 2 came out a treat and a lot less fuss than spraying. Fair bit of flatting involved but certainly a great option for outdoor painting. Providing you give it a reasonable hardening time you can actually drive your van/camper around between coats I would think.

Well, thats me decided. Paint range is as follows (although you could mix colours if you were keen on pink, daffodil yellow etc...

http://www.tooled-up.com/Artwork/ProdPD ... 0CHART.pdf

Not much point in replicating the same thread as they seem to have it covered but if you plough through all 36-odd pages you'll see the results possible going that route.

Post by **Horney** » 23 Jun 2006, 09:35

Looks awesome. Not going to use it on me van as it's far to dented so I'm going Matt NATO green but that stuff looks just the ticket for painting up my mini!

Nick

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 23 Jun 2006, 15:20

didnt look at the link, but they used to paint cars with brushes before the advent of compressors (coachpainting) youve seen the paint on some of the old stagecoach`s. it will take you months of painting and rubbing down and painting again etc, to get it that good. go onto google and enter "tekaloid" or knacker laquer, you should get some helpful links