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Syncro Gearbox (More pics)

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Since mTdi engine is almost finished I've been working on the Syncro gearbox, because 4th gear pops out while driving...

Dismantling the gearbox (AHF) and then analyzing it I have seen some debris but not very important failures... syncro hubs are ok and 4th pinion teeth has some sharp, so I need to replace them. I had to dismantle the spare gearbox I have, AAN, and is much better, almost new, so I think I am going to use AAN 4th gear pinions, but I want to replace also all the synchronizers, needle bearing and big ball bearings...

Aidan Talbot has adviced me about that and now I want to look for a good place to buy the parts I need, but at the same time not to spend a lot of money... you know... taht thing called "crisis"... :(

Another question I have is... I have seen 3rd/4th syncro hub modern version with 3 holes on it... Is that a job that a lathe operator can do??

I am going to put the oil baffles too... Has anyone more gearbox rebuilding pics?

Some pics I took of my AHF gearbox... http://www.flickr.com/photos/11894776@N ... 639667716/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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aan 4th gear is not suitable with 5.4 diff box and tdi. differant ratios

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I would think Aidan can supply the parts..... if you ask nicely.. :wink:

If you find them cheaper than he can supply, then you may want to ask him about them.. there are some crappy parts out there... and saving a few quid in the box only for it to break 3000km later and wreck something.... will cost a whole lot more.... :wink:

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..lee.. wrote:aan 4th gear is not suitable with 5.4 diff box and tdi. differant ratios

Yeh, the only thing is 4th will be shorter. But I can use the AAN pinions. Am I wrong? :?:
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toomanytoys wrote:I would think Aidan can supply the parts..... if you ask nicely.. :wink:

If you find them cheaper than he can supply, then you may want to ask him about them.. there are some crappy parts out there... and saving a few quid in the box only for it to break 3000km later and wreck something.... will cost a whole lot more.... :wink:

Yeh I have sent Aidan a list with parts numbers and I am waiting for the answer... 4 years ago I asked for parts to Bernd Jaeger and the parts he sent me were VW OEM, prices were really good.
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4 years ago, oem was easyer to find.. a few things have changed since then.. unfortunately.. but as said, if you do find something, let Aidan know.. he'll appreciate the contact..

Aidan always does his best.. I can assure you of that.. :ok

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toomanytoys wrote:Aidan always does his best.. I can assure you of that.. :ok

I know I know, He has adviced me on my syncro gearbox rebuild, what kind of parts change and what to do, and not all the mechanics do that "for free", he is a very good guy and his help is really appreciated... in fact, as I think you know, I have 2 syncro gearboxes, so the spare gearbox will be sent to Aidan for a super rebuild. Is good to have a rebuilt gearbox ready to change if this one I am fixing suddenly explodes! :lol:

Now the only thing I want is rebuild the gearbox and finish the van to enjoy it!! I will stay here in the Canaries for 2 or 3 months more and then I will go to UK... New life, new job and new friends!! :D (and new weather :( )

I will miss a friend I had when I was living in Ireland a guy called syncropaddy :roll: ... I think he has a sickness called syncronitis, you heard of it?? and you heard of that guy?? :mrgreen:
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By the way I also need a Decoupler because my VC doesnt works...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gql2WLZ7ch4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Syncropaddy??? who/s that then? :rofl :rofl :rofl

Decouplwhat?? Never heard of whatever that is... do we need one?? :rofl :rofl :rollin :rollin :run

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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

5417stirrer Victor!
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Well, I finished the gearbox one month ago... I had some problems with the oil baffles instructions, but finally could be done. Hope the gearbox will be okay for a long time. I want to find out about the speed on 4th in the highway... will be soon...
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Well,

Just to update some info about the gearbox. After 7500 kms still ok, I changed the oil twice, first time there was some metal in the magnet but second time almost clean. I have installed a decoupler and now the van is a real 4x4. Awesome behaviour with the decoupler (and solid shaft). I dont know what to do with VC, I think I will save some money and one day I will buy a rebuilt VC, just to have one ready to use. :wink:
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Macflai wrote:
I will miss a friend I had when I was living in Ireland a guy called syncropaddy :roll: ... I think he has a sickness called syncronitis, you heard of it?? and you heard of that guy?? :mrgreen:

Dose your friend know about your decupler :?: As a friend he may have an opinion on it :D well done with your rebuild.

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axeman wrote:
Macflai wrote:
I will miss a friend I had when I was living in Ireland a guy called syncropaddy :roll: ... I think he has a sickness called syncronitis, you heard of it?? and you heard of that guy?? :mrgreen:

Dose your friend know about your decupler :?: As a friend he may have an opinion on it :D well done with your rebuild.

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syncropaddy wrote:
Victor knows nothing .... he thinks Land Rovers are better than Syncros

Well, a simple Land Rover is better than a simple T3 Syncro, no doubt. But a simple Land Rover is not better than my T3 Syncro >Westfalia<. Thats the difference. And thats one point for my T3 Syncro Westy. That is the reason I sold my LR Discovery last year. :roll:

And yes I knew that guy called Syncropaddy, I miss the country where he lives, because there were a lot of countryside for offroading and nice places for wild camping... About the weather I won't tell anything about, comparing to Canary Islands, where I live. Maybe a Webasto or Mikuni heater can fix that problem staying there... :mrgreen:

And Andrew thinks Syncros are better than Land Rovers. Human being is not perfect sometimes. :twisted:
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