So any thoughts after Coney?

Post by **toomanytoys** » 04 Apr 2006, 10:41

Did anyone get/feel an opinion about their tyres compared to others.

Did SyncroAndy manage to do a little test?

I was lwaning towards Macho's so if they did nearly as well as attacama's and are a little more all round (ie cope with drier rocky terrain as well) I'll go for them..

Looks cracking fun.. hope to be over with mine in a couple of months...

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 04 Apr 2006, 10:50

Did anyone get/feel an opinion about their tyres compared to others.

Yes.

Tyre pressure and the driver are far more important than the tyre, so shut up and buy a set and quit bothering people about their tyres.

Post by **toomanytoys** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:00

Thanks for your help Thomas

Post by **Louey** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:11

Diamond Hell wrote:[and quit bothering people about their tyres.

you must have a rubber fetish

Si

Post by **bigbluebus** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:36

Tyre pressure and the driver are far more important than the tyre

Ah, sod buying new tyres Marcus, your just crap apparently

Post by **matt** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:46

bigbluebus wrote:
Tyre pressure and the driver are far more important than the tyre

Ah, sod buying new tyres Marcus, your just crap apparently

thats not very nice....
perhaps he just needed a pooh first ???

Post by **Cate** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:49

He certainly didn't need a pooh after the hill-slide, Tracy either!

Post by **tonka** » 04 Apr 2006, 11:59

Hi All,

Thought I'd put my penneth in here.. (not that I know what I am talking about)

I made an astounding discovery this weekend ... atacama's are better offroad than continental road tyres... ha.. don't you just love the newbies!

... cheers for the loaners Thomas. Those tyres rock..!!!!!!

Mind you when you have both diff locks on and are sitting perched on the railway bars in a quagmire, and they are trying to turn around, each tyre in a sloshy pool of muddy water.. not much cop ... beached whale comes to mind..

Thanks guys for hoisting me out of my very first grounding, boggy mess.

Still got a smile on my face from the weekend.

Cheers

Tonka

Post by **bigbluebus** » 04 Apr 2006, 12:00

Si,

I'll mostly be buying whatever Russel was using, looked a similar pattern to Atacamas and seemed very effective.

Followed Russel / Mcgill / Amulet to the site on Friday and their on road pace was comfortable

Dare I say it, they also 'look' good

but,

drove Jen's (un-familiar RHD p/steering) van on Macho's at Biggin other week and was amazed how much better they were than AT's. I'm pretty sure Marcus will back me on that.. Clive appeared to do well but didn't look as planted as the Scots, though a doka is a little lighter I guess

Colway / BF AT's have proved rubbish for me & Marcus on several occasions now. Ok in the dry / drying conditions, and on-road, but show them mud and it's teflon tyre time. And I don't care what your opinion of my driving is Thomas before you start . .

That's all I know on the subject so that's all I'll say

Post by **syncroand101** » 04 Apr 2006, 12:07

All very true.

However, the tyre pressure really was the crucial item for the weekend.

As proven time and time again. Clive on 35 PSi was not going anywhere on trial 1, down to 18, and it walked up. Russel had trouble going around Trial 1 on 25 PSI, down to 15 (or thereabouts) and it also walked up in comparison.

Same with Mercus, who was skating around everywhere until he lowered down and actually got some traction. AT's aren't that bad. Infact I did Syncropendance one on Long Trails (worse than AT's). And I believe was 3rd on the gully climb...

Post by **bigbluebus** » 04 Apr 2006, 12:23

the skating did improve granted, but so did the surface in the afternoon and into Sunday. Me and Marcus were pretty much following each other nose to tail all weekend (10m gap of course) and even with different pressures / van weights / driving abilities it was pretty much a given he'd slide - i'd slide n vice versa, where you (jake) or bob or jen would get grip, power up and be away

Maybe we should have used 'Marcus Hill' to carry out back to back tests - tyres up / tyres down - raining / drying out - new underwear / filled underwear

ha ha ha

Post by **syncroand101** » 04 Apr 2006, 15:35

bigbluebus wrote: 'Marcus Hill'

hahaha, like it.

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 04 Apr 2006, 16:11

I've got no real opinion on your driving, Andy - you've never had aggressive-enough tyres on or done enough to judge it either way.

Basically, as has been covered repeatedly on this forum, open tread pattern tyres such as MTs, Atacamas or Machos will provide a much better basis for driving off road as they are naturally self-cleaning. You will not have the same on-road performance with them though.

As Jake has said tyre pressures of those open tread tyres will have a big influence on their behaviour..... although if the driver doesn't put the vehicle in the situation where grip is marginal then you won't have to challenge the grip the tyres provide so much.

It'll be a relief if IoM Si ever actually gets his alleged Syncro on the road, as he can actually buy some tyres and THEN discuss them from an informed position, rather than (dare I say it) as a keyboard warrior with little or no experience.

Post by **Louey** » 04 Apr 2006, 16:12

bigbluebus wrote:t - new underwear / filled underwear

Post by **Russel** » 04 Apr 2006, 16:58

Ian is using 215 80 15 colway MT's Andrew is on 205 80 16 INSA (desert trail if my memory is correct) and i am using 235 75 15 INSA dakar's
and preshure dose make a big diference but so dose ure tread(combination)