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where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 05 Jul 2009, 23:08
by holeydub on 4wheels
hi all,
just wondering if anyone has fitted new brake lines (copper ones) as mine are well knackered and need replacing for the mot. Ive looked around and can only find that just kampers sell a complete set.
does anyone know where else to get them and what o need to remove underneath to change them as it looks like i have to tak the petrol tank off??
cheers all
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 05 Jul 2009, 23:39
by Fritz
IMHO, if you are a little unsure about this sort of job, may be just as well to pay a man who does know what he is doing.....
Regards
Fritz,,,,,,,,,,,
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 05 Jul 2009, 23:53
by CovKid
I changed all mine to copper when I first got mine. It was about £55 the lot online. May have been ebay. Been a long whil, but I did do them myself. Took two days.
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 07:58
by holeydub on 4wheels
not to worried about the job itself as ive done them before on beetles and the like but really just wanted a heads up on what needs to come off (just saves using the brain that early in the morning :p )
anyways i was thinking about getting a role of the copper pipe and retro fitting it myself i have the flairing tool already but it doesnt seem to have the right die (if thats the right word) to shape it to match the hose connections is there something i can buy to do this or would it be much easier to just buy a ready made kit and shape it fit?? rather than sodding around to save £30 or £40 quid??
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 08:16
by Ian Hulley
Best be prepared for things to turn really nasty if you want my advice.
The biggest problem is that you end up chasing the whole system round .... for e.g. 5 years ago now our local testing station failed The Bus on the front and rear flexys ... by the time I'd finished I'd replaced both calipers, both rear cylinders and every pipe in between including the tees and unions ... only the front/rear balance regulator came undone !
I've never had to mess with the brake system since mind ... except to grease it once a year and maintain the brakes themselves of course.
Ian
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 09:29
by toomanytoys
What he said.....
Normal brake flare kit has the correct mandrels in it... well mine does...

Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 10:23
by holeydub on 4wheels
you couldnt take a pic of the one i'd need could you? that way i'll get the roll of copper pipe of off fleabay and save a few quid??
what size pipe would i need coz ive got some here at home that might do the job...
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 18:59
by CovKid
Or....
Just buy:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-pce-Metric-Fla ... 1|294%3A50" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8MM-X-7-5MTR-SOFT ... 1|294%3A50" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; X 2 - You'll need to check diameter - may be narrower
Works out not far off what I paid for mine ready-made.
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 20:30
by holeydub on 4wheels
thanks for the replies guys im looking at getting a copper and nickol mix is it worth paying extra few pounds as they say its easier to work with and lasts longer.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brake-Pipe-3-16-C ... 7C294%3A30
also it turns out that my pipe flaring kit has the right bits but the 3/16 bit is broken

so thought about getting this from the same seller...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0054978359
any thoughts on these would be great
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 20:46
by Ian Hulley
You need 'Kunifer'.
Ian
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 21:02
by Simon Baxter
New in.
Cheap copper, as I knwo how you lot like cheap!
Also got Kunifer coming, bought a load as thats what I use in the workshop.
Also got the pipe ends to go on soon, not cheap motor factor ones either that are a swine to start, some nice german ones that are much easier to work with, and a bit more money. They are the same shape as the factory ones.
Also, not on the site yet are 6mm straight couplings for repairing the clutch pipe.
Too much to do, so little time!
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 21:16
by holeydub on 4wheels
kunifer ok check

watching that in fleabay (works out at about £25 with postage for two packs - 50mtrs in total)
how many male ends will i need (i was going to order a dozen to start with)
will i need any female ends? and are the ends measured at 10mm or something else?
sorry to all that im going on a bit here but im making sure its done once and properly

Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 21:18
by Simon Baxter
50 feet, not metres.
kunfifer if you want a good job, copper if you want a cheap job thats a bit easier to work with.
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 21:20
by Ian Hulley
Re: where to buy and fitting new brake pipes
Posted: 06 Jul 2009, 21:25
by holeydub on 4wheels
did i not mention that ive got a super stretched limo T3 lol
only just noticed the feet to meter ratio myself
just noticed these are these the right ends i should be using?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/25-MALE-SHOULDER- ... 7C294%3A30
im trying to get everything ordered for the weekends job...