Anyone ever done Waxoyl in the street?

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Anyone ever done Waxoyl in the street?

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Never used Waxoyl before. I'm hoping to do it tomorrow but I'm a bit concerned that it'll leave a nasty mess which my neighbours won't want to park in...

Any tips? How messy is it? Should I seriously consider somewhere off a public road?
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Wear gloves (pink Marigold's) and safety glasses if you have any. Put lots of newspaper down and use one of those red straws if you're using a spraycan so you can get into the little holes. Waxoyl also comes in bigger, refillable tins and you can buy a spray nozzle to fit the can. You'll need loads if you want to do a proper job of it.

Also PLEASE do one thing while you're at it. This won't take more than 5 minutes but will save you a fortune in bills for rust treatment.

Get a couple of carrier bags, a torch and a phillips (crosshead) screwdriver ready.
Take off your rear lights...no really...take em off. Then take a look into the spaces behind where the lights were. If they are full of foam and sponge, rip it all out as it's likely to be soaking wet or damp and will be holing moisture against the interior panels (which for part of the rear wheel arches). Moisture = rust.
Now you could be looking at some rust or even rusty holes. If you are take a look at the Wiki rust section and treat it quickly.

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Thanks dude.

The forecast for tomorrow doesn't look too windy and when I was clearing out the shed earlier today, I found a large polythene dust sheet. So I reckon I'll just spread that out under the van and weight it down with something.

Happy days.

PS I've got disposable gloves a nd paper boiler suit and glasses at the ready. And five litres of waxoyl, with the pump and the nozzle. I'll be doing the missus' car next, so I thought I might as well get all the kit...
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Just make sure that no one who works for local council lives close to you. It will certainly be illegal to do this kind of work now. Any kind of work other than changing a bulb is strictly off-limits on public highways these days. We all do it, but be warned.

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Warm it up a little by putting the can in some warm water. Obviously keep an eye on any exapansion issues if using really hot water, but ti should help it spray better, especially if using the big refillable tin you pump up.

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CovKid wrote:Just make sure that no one who works for local council lives close to you. It will certainly be illegal to do this kind of work now. Any kind of work other than changing a bulb is strictly off-limits on public highways these days. We all do it, but be warned.

Really? :shock:

I work for the county council actually! But I had no idea about this, obviously.

Can I just plead ignorance? :roll:
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Yep plead ignorance. Most councils have much stricter laws now on what you can and can't do in the street and what is regarded as 'repairs' is open to interpretation. My local council didn't approve of me rubbing down a section of bodywork for instance and they REALLY frown on you taking the engine out in the street - thats a no no these days.

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I think local councils have a lot more to worry about than you Waxoyling your van mate. If they have invested their profits (your money) in a foreign bank, it's likely that they have temporarily lost the lot. Any nonsense from them and I'd be inclined to read them their rights on the spot. So tell any council official from the start that you'll be using everything they say and do as evidence to be used against them. Work lean as a matter of courtesy for those around you rather than fear of what might but probably won't happen.

Some bloke pulled up next to me the other day, opened his window and took a picture of me working next to my van with his mobile phone. Didn't say a word and drove off. I noted down the reg number and model of the car. Could be insurance, could be council, MI5, could be nobody. I have absolutely nothing to hide so they can have a pop if they fancy getting nowhere. It's that 'we're watching you' style of fear they so love to use. They never say what for or why just that they are. Watch away is my message! It's not defiance or anger, just that I really do not give a damn about them. yes they exist but not in the way they are supposed to. Too many chiefs... there are some types of excrement that floats to the top and it's usually the type of pen pusher which nastily niggles away like a cancerous cell and which doesn't really care about anyone else apart from themselves. They are their own worst enemy and always fall flat on their faces when the next nasty ladder climber steps on them to get even higher. Do I feel sorry for them? Nope! They have made that choice.

I'd like to think that the 'authorities' would prefer to have us on their side but it's more likely that they will begin victimising people to earn their money back and who better to victimise (even more) than someone with a vehicle? We're like people with addictions in many ways - we cannot function without filling our tanks with heavily taxed fuels and the drug pushers are also the schizo's fining us with taxes and other nonsense fines. They sell the drugs, then fine us for using them.

If you've never been to India, you can't know how much ...and I mean to the point that I was trying not to breathe properly in some places for fear of what might be in the air.... pollution India produces. What we are doing on this tiny island called England, by way of being 'green', doesn't even offset a tiny fraction of anything India produces daily. Carbon footprint?!? Rubbish!! It's a theory not a fact! Someone once mentioned it as a metaphor and now we all have one. We're being forced into obsessive cleanliness which is far beyond anything that is necessary. Time was when a bloke would sweep the streets. Now there are noisy motorised brushes and leaf blowers....and where do all the leaves go? It's not the local council's compost heap, that's for sure.

I'm going to continue to faff with my van now. It needs a good hoovering out and I like cleaning it and looking after it.

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HV, you really got a bee in yer bonnet there, dude.

That said, I too recently observed one of those petrol-driven leaf-blowers in a Manchester suburb and thought to myself, 'What the blithering heck?!'

Crazy.

On a lighter note, thanks for the tip-off about taking out the rear lights. :D Gave it a good spray in there.

Used all 5 litres of Waxoyl in the end. Just hope I got to everywhere I should and nowhere I shouldn't. Still, a half-decent waxoyl job is better than none at all, in my view.

i wasn't really concerned about the local authority, to be honest. We recently had my wife's car on axle stands for about three weeks and no-one batted an eyelid. We live in a dead-end street anyway, so hardly any traffic to worry about. Not like I'm changing the transmission on a major A-road...

Somerset County Council had £25M in Iceland and we were sent a staff e-mail today emphasising the buoyant mood among our superiors. That'll be the coke, then... :wink:
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dont worry what some hippies might say about "the environment maan" its only waxoyl. get the job done, thin it down (as per instructions) warm it up so its watery and just get it done..............simple.

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I think this has got rather out of hand. Its rare that they drive around looking for people abusing local bylaws. The fact is, councils do have stricter rules now (mostly EU) and the biggest threat is likely to be from a neighbour with a grudge or otherwise not happy with what you're doing, reporting you. At that point the council is generally obliged to act.

The point is, common sense should prevail. Dumping your sump wouldn't make you popular though :lol:

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CovKid has got it, keep your neighbours sweet (I keep mine happy by doing brake pads etc for them. I recently removed/installed engine in the street. On the install my neighbour was washing his car before I started and was still doing so when I finished! and his use of jet washer was probably more hazardous than my careful use of jacks and stands. Anyhow the engine was just out for 'servicing' not repair :wink:
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Vehicles are a license to print money for most councils.

I'm just waiting for a letter from Brighton council penpushers saying something litigious about me working on my van. My van, by their reckoning, is too high to be parked on the street in one of their standard width bays. When I owned an ambulance it was deemed to be too long and they refused me a permit and told me I would have to pay and display like a visitor or change vehicles. I am a resident! I took legal action against them,they admitted fault. Who pays? We do!

I am allowed to purchase, for £2 per day, with 3 forms of ID, 50 visitor's day parking permits a year. If I need more, I have to ask a neighbour for one and they have to go and buy one for me in the same way. The council are numptees of the highest order and if anyone is out of hand, it's local bloody councils not me for thinking so little of them.

Last year, what were once double yellow lines, became pay and display parking bays. It used to be illegal and now it isn't. It used to be the case that "fire engines and other emergency services would find it impossible..." and now they don't? They never did!

My neighbour's monkey bike was ticketed the other weekend. It was off the ground on his garden wall and chained to his garden railings. That weekend was the motorbike rally on the seafront and there were bikes everywhere - pavements, road,beach etc so instead of dealing with that, they targetted residents.

My van was ticketed last week, while parked outside my house. I have a permit in my windscreen which costs me £104 per year - no guarantee of a parking space though and it was still ticketed. So I have to contest it, in my time.

When my van still had it's German plates and I was waiting for DVLA to process my registration details, I told the parking office that I already had a permit and the details would be changing soon so could they give me a temp. permit. They wrote a reference number on my old permit and said it would be fine as it was now on their system etc etc. When the parking attendant had put a ticket on my van after me repeatedly telling him about the reference number, which was clearly visible, I blew my top! I called the Police, who supported me. He was guilty of illegally issuing a fine without due cause. What happened? Nothing until I received a letter notifying me that the fine had doubled and that they would tow and destroy the van if it wasn't paid in full within 7 days!

If you want to see a waste of time before your very eyes, come to Brighton and watch tradesmen being ticketed for doing their jobs. Several small businesses have gone out of business because they could not afford to pay parking fines, when once they just got on with their lives. Before going to a job they have to wait in line in the parking office....which has double yellows outside....and while they are waiting in line for permission to get on with their lives, tickets are issued for parking on double yellows!

Out of hand is when a council behaves so idiotically and victimises the people it is supposed to be there to serve! So I make no excuses for being on their case whenever possible and expecting them to behave erratically. I don't doubt other councils are different but to leave anything in their hands is asking for nonsense.

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flippin heck hv.nobody could accuse you of being a man of few words.. :)
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