Removing Windscreen with String?

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Removing Windscreen with String?

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Hi im hoping to do the whole rustoleum treatment soon, i would like to do the best job i can and have a small patch of rust under the windscreen seal, i have heard a few people on these forums state its very easy to remove and then replace the front windscreen with string/washing line?

I cant get my head around in what way string/washing line could be used and wondered if there was a video or pictures demonstrating this? Or even a good description of where to put the string!

I have had a look around but cant find any info on this, as ever any help from anyone is greatly appreciated!

Im hoping to post pics of the finished job, but just about to start on the rust treatment so could be months yet! :roll:

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If you have never seen or done this i strongly sugest phone up a local auto glass fitter to do it or you 'll probs break the window!!!!!
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I cant get my head around in what way string/washing line could be used and wondered if there was a video or pictures demonstrating this? Or even a good description of where to put the string!
Im hoping to post pics of the finished job, but just about to start on the rust treatment so could be months yet! :roll:[/quote]

Yes I had a go at putting one in with string. I believe he idea is that you thread the string round the grove in the rubber then use it to pull one side of the rubber seal through to the other side of the metal/glass. It didn't work for me so as I achieved Westinghous Brake & Signal Co (Lea Bridge Road depot) equipment cabinet window fitter champion 1958 I should think a beginner would soon be in trouble. My prefered method is a blunted plaster scraper and lots of washing up liquid. Finishing off with a blunted screwdriver and a prayer to the god of your choice (or not) This work is not for the fient hearted!
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Thanks for the advice, just to carify: the string goes from the cabin out around the groove to the outside and loops back inside the cab? Then basically try to pull it in? And the same rubber can be used? I just can`t resist trying it!

Im gonna have a look after rust treatment, dont think i have much faith in masking all the window rubbers off without seeping onto the rubber, i also dont want a thin lip of the old colour showing through near the window rubbers.

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Dont use washing up liquid it contains salt, use KY Jelly! seriously.
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and get a spare screen bought.before you try it...
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Try not to use any lubricants at all, if the screens slides in it could slide out.

The string goes in the seal groove that lips around the bodywork and is pulled from the inside.

Use a good strong string like paracord, about 8-10mm thick,
feed it around the seal starting from the centre at the top of the screen
and go all the way round. Aim for an overlap of about 30cms.

You need two people for the task.
Place the screen in the hole and push it in as far as possible.
With the second person applying pressure from outside directly over the string,
firmly pull string out of the seal.
Try to to keep string pointing towards the centre of the screen.

You may need to back the screen in using your hand/palm.

If it does not sit right, pull it out and start again.

Good luck.

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With you on the spare screen - got a mate who had his done by a body shop and they wouldn't guarentee that the screen would survive. He had to buy one in the end as they broke it taking it out!

What about the other windows? Are they more robust - I think I need to take all but the rear window our :cry:

Hmmm, thinking about it I haven't seen much advice on taking the windows out! Is there any special technique?

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Hacksawbob wrote:Dont use washing up liquid it contains salt, use KY Jelly! seriously.
I am 67 years old and they won't sell it to me! :roll:
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I would also like to know how to do this for the same reasons! Could anyone put together a quick video of the principle? Its hard to understand just from words! :oops:

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When I have done my front window (screen) I have always pulled the string INTO the cab area... (cant see how it would go the other way)
Also I use a some wallpaper scrapers to get the window out.Ease the rubber out so the edges are facing you arnd apply a 'smidge' of pressuse in that corner. This SHOULD be enough to start the window removal.

Factory fit glass is easier as it will follow the same procedure as the front. Converts are a little more hassle IMHO. (sorry I have no videos of this)
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just done mine with a mate. tricky but very do-able. if you have rust under the rubber you will probably have noticed water ingress in the cab on the floor and on the steps. this is due to a perished screen rubber.
buy a new one and cut the old one out from the outside with a blade.
if you refit a perished rubber you will never get it to reseal properly and it will leak again hence more rust and water ingress---- new steps and floor needed.
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To take the window out. From inside the vehicle start in one top corner by levering down the seal around the bodywork and pushing out the window at the same time working along both edges at the same time, once you have got it started it gets easier. The easiest way is to just cut the seal on the inside roughly along the line of the lip of the bodywork with a stanley knife you only have to do the top and halfway down each side and then push out from the top and then replace the seal it's a good idea anyway (dont forget to have someone on the outside ready to catch it).


To replace the window fit the seal to the window and put the cord (I use electrical cable as it slides easier)into the slot where the bodywork goes and overlap the two ends at the top by at least six inches. Offer the window up to the hole in the bodywork and with someone on the outside pushing in the window at the top and bottom where the cords overlap, pull one of the cords to pull the lip of the rubber under the lip of the body work. As you work around the window the the outside person has to push in the window where you are pulling the cord and also push in the window opposite where you are pulling the cord to stop the wndow popping out. As Hacksawbob said KY jelly is a good lubricant I use tyre fitting soap as it has anti corrosion inhibiters but not washing up liquid or silicone lubricants.
Once the window is fitted bang the window with palm of your hand all the way round to settle the window in.
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Bigherb, so when replacing the window you have the overlapping string / wire at the top centre or the screen. Is that correct?

Great description thanks, i'm sure it'll help lots of people...should be on the wiki :D

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