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6x6 101
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That thing is a heap of "pooh", there are some videos of it on Youtube or googlevideo where you can see it getting stuck on its extra axle all the time. All they've done was extend the chassis and stick another normal 101 style leafsprung axle under it I recon. Look at any other 6x6 and the rear axles are usally linked in some way so if one gets pushed up the other can drop down and keep traction, this just lifts both on one axle or balances on the middle one so the considerable a*** on it helps lift the front and that then looses grip too!
I really love 101's but that ones rubish, they should have left it alone. If you want a 6x6 fit a Rubery Owen powered trailer to it (if you can find one, they didn't really make production) and try not to let it push it over round corners (why they didn't make production!). Better idea, get a Pinz, they work as a 6x6.
My Mates ambulance will outrun my bog standard (diesel) landy on acceleration, and mine despite having 45% of the power only has 40% of the weight to deal with! They are slow top end as the gears are much lower. His was unfomfortable enough to drive to South Africa and he still liked it enough to bring it back. I have to say the LR 101 has my all time faverate exhaust note too! I'll get one some day, its not like they have more acilies heals than a syncro!
I really love 101's but that ones rubish, they should have left it alone. If you want a 6x6 fit a Rubery Owen powered trailer to it (if you can find one, they didn't really make production) and try not to let it push it over round corners (why they didn't make production!). Better idea, get a Pinz, they work as a 6x6.
My Mates ambulance will outrun my bog standard (diesel) landy on acceleration, and mine despite having 45% of the power only has 40% of the weight to deal with! They are slow top end as the gears are much lower. His was unfomfortable enough to drive to South Africa and he still liked it enough to bring it back. I have to say the LR 101 has my all time faverate exhaust note too! I'll get one some day, its not like they have more acilies heals than a syncro!
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lol not great conversion to say the least, the FC101 was built as a 6x6 but it was done with a powered trailer (used a 360 coupling and a prop fed from the gearbox PTO) however the high center of gravity meant on tight turns the trailer tended to push the 101 over rather than round the corner!
in general 101's are like any land rover very much a love or hate.... for those interested they use the same engine/gearbox and transfer case as the early range rover classic 2 door (which we build and race) it's a 3.5ltr v8 and 4 speed LT95 gearbox with permanent 4WD run through a vacuum operated diff... it's all very heavy and 'agricultural' but then it's very reliable too!!
The mod on this vehicle is flawed as the extra axle is rigid to the chassis so on a cross ale it's possible to get one wheel on opposing sides both spinning and the vehicle going nowhere fast!!...
Ironically the whole point I joined this forum was to find info about the possibilities of using 2 syncros as rally support vehicles after a lot of replies and some very helpful info (thanks everyone!) we looked over our needs again and most likely will not go this route but... go with 6x6 land rovers. Were now mid design of two in-house specials that will be loosely based on the 110, both will have a tag rear axle giving us a carry weight of 2 tonne+... the 3rd axle is powered from the box (same system as described above) and as proven by the 'parentie 6x6' conversions made for the Oz army by JRA.
Syncro G is spot on in that the key to the 6x6 is a swing ale, this simply means the rear of the front axles spring and the front of the rear spring cross over on a 'seesaw' so as the leading axle gets pushed up or down the trailing one is then forced to compensate, this way 6x6 traction is rarely lost.
sorry for land rover lecture but spent 20+ years working on or for land rover
a JRA Perentie 6x6
http://www.allisons.org/ll/4/LandRover/ ... n6x6st.jpg
the axle swing mount
http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/suspension2b.jpg
in general 101's are like any land rover very much a love or hate.... for those interested they use the same engine/gearbox and transfer case as the early range rover classic 2 door (which we build and race) it's a 3.5ltr v8 and 4 speed LT95 gearbox with permanent 4WD run through a vacuum operated diff... it's all very heavy and 'agricultural' but then it's very reliable too!!
The mod on this vehicle is flawed as the extra axle is rigid to the chassis so on a cross ale it's possible to get one wheel on opposing sides both spinning and the vehicle going nowhere fast!!...
Ironically the whole point I joined this forum was to find info about the possibilities of using 2 syncros as rally support vehicles after a lot of replies and some very helpful info (thanks everyone!) we looked over our needs again and most likely will not go this route but... go with 6x6 land rovers. Were now mid design of two in-house specials that will be loosely based on the 110, both will have a tag rear axle giving us a carry weight of 2 tonne+... the 3rd axle is powered from the box (same system as described above) and as proven by the 'parentie 6x6' conversions made for the Oz army by JRA.
Syncro G is spot on in that the key to the 6x6 is a swing ale, this simply means the rear of the front axles spring and the front of the rear spring cross over on a 'seesaw' so as the leading axle gets pushed up or down the trailing one is then forced to compensate, this way 6x6 traction is rarely lost.
sorry for land rover lecture but spent 20+ years working on or for land rover
a JRA Perentie 6x6
http://www.allisons.org/ll/4/LandRover/ ... n6x6st.jpg
the axle swing mount
http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/suspension2b.jpg
