Syncro v's 2WD..............

Post by **KarlT** » 22 Jan 2008, 10:02

Hi.

As some may know have recently bought a 2WD caravelle for wifes bus.

I'm amazed at the difference in the ride. The sync just feels so much better!!

Post by **vwjon** » 22 Jan 2008, 11:20

dude, i just sooo agree! i remove the drive shaft from mine when i'm not expecting off road fun, as soon as its re-fitted its like a differrent vehicle.
its so sure footed and positive.
i drove a 2wd recently and i couldnt understand why i liked them so much- yes they are a nice drive, but so is a hyundai. having said that i KNOW what i'd rather have!!

Post by **syncroandy** » 22 Jan 2008, 18:20

Yeah, I had to drive my Mum's newish Ford Fiasco (or summink) the other day, and it felt positively dangerous ! Really non-compliant limited-travel suspension, and edgy over-geared power steering with no feedback at all. Truly horrible.

Post by **Al Housman** » 22 Jan 2008, 19:06

We have a Renault trafic camper which is going to have to go as soon as I've sorted a syncro one.My syncro Doka sticks firmly to the road (and we have some wild ones round here) and did so even before upgrading to 15" BFGs. The Renault really does wallow badly( always has I guess) and feels decidedly unsafe in comparison.

Post by **syncroand101** » 22 Jan 2008, 19:09

syncroandy wrote:YReally non-compliant limited-travel suspension

Your not supposed to drive them offroad Andy...

Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Jan 2008, 21:49

Must admit, modern steering on cars seems to go the drivers little or no real feeling or understanding of what the tyres are doing.. and more imprtnatly what their limits are...

Sells cars though...

Post by **andysimpson** » 22 Jan 2008, 22:03

HarryMann wrote:Must admit, modern steering on cars seems to go the drivers little or no real feeling or understanding of what the tyres are doing.. and more imprtnatly what their limits are...

Sells cars though...

With most new cars the limits are not the drivers concern computers worry about that.

Post by **Syncro G** » 24 Jan 2008, 01:16

Electronic power steering is the worst thing in the world! When the driveshaft broke on the van they the RAC got me a Corsa with it and the steering weight needed to change lanes on the motorway was the same as dry steering it in a carpark - scarry I thought!

One week later when I'd got the van working again in RWD I nearly lost it on a wet corner that was a bit tighter than I thought - I was a bit staggered at how different the van felt without the perminant 4wd, made what would have been an easy corner feal a bit unsettled to say the least. Its almost invisable through normal driving but you don't half miss the extra grip it finds when you don't have 4wd. Got used to being RWD now, but I'm sure I'll be enjoying some quattro cornering when I get round to fixing it!

I may only be RWD at the moment but thats much nicer than the curent FWD vans. My dad has a caravelle TDI 174 auto and that spends all its corners wondering which gear its ment to be in, when it eventully settles on a gear or you put your foot down to hurry its desision a bit the front never quite seems willing enough to turn in, not like the more neutral line our old auto T3 would to, though I'm sure it actully goes round the corners faster. Still, neather compaire to a syncro!

Post by **Mudlark** » 24 Jan 2008, 08:53

Modern cars seem to have been built for the play station generation, especially at the 'rs' end of the spectrum, its not like real driving at all.

Post by **HarryMann** » 24 Jan 2008, 22:43

14 year old girl wins jet airliner Approach and Landing competiiton...

Gets 9/10 from professional pilot in Full-scale flightsim.... for her approach and landing guided by pro pilot...

Lorry driver, milkman, go kart racer get 6/10, 7/10 and 8/10

or something like that, canot find weblink, but 'read it in Flight International today'

The 14 year old girl spends a lot of time on computer games...

her mum says!

Says it all?

Post by **Simon Baxter** » 24 Jan 2008, 23:19

I said before on another thread that a syncro minus a prop drives much much worse than a 2wd van does.
The cobbles up our street soon teach you how much power you can get away with!

Post by **andysimpson** » 25 Jan 2008, 19:04

Simon Baxter wrote:I said before on another thread that a syncro minus a prop drives much much worse than a 2wd van does.
The cobbles up our street soon teach you how much power you can get away with!

What he said