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Post by **SEFSPEED** » 19 Jun 2007, 20:40

I have a 1.6d jk motor fitted in my bus, and I,m using semi synthetic oil, is this ok or am I asking for trouble. also any ideas on how much oil i need as it takes 6.5 litres to the full mark on the dipstick. Many thanks

Post by **andysimpson** » 19 Jun 2007, 20:56

semi syn is fine, it should take 4.5 litres, any more and bad things will happen, i think your dipstick tube needs adjustment.

Post by **Westy.Club.Joker** » 19 Jun 2007, 21:25

As Andy says. I don`t think fully synthetic oil had been dreamt up in the early 80`s when the motor was designed

Post by **kevtherev** » 19 Jun 2007, 21:42

Westy.Club.Joker wrote:As Andy says. I don`t think fully synthetic oil had been dreamt up in the early 80`s when the motor was designed

ed newman wrote:The first such synthetic motor oil independently tested and confirmed to meet industry-accepted tests for defining engine oil properties and performance characteristics was AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-40 in 1972.

suprised me too...But I doubt it was used widely

Post by **DJZ** » 20 Jun 2007, 16:45

andysimpson wrote:semi syn is fine, it should take 4.5 litres, any more and bad things will happen, i think your dipstick tube needs adjustment.

How do you adjust the dipstick tube?

Post by **Bowton Lad** » 20 Jun 2007, 17:46

kevtherev wrote:
Westy.Club.Joker wrote:As Andy says. I don`t think fully synthetic oil had been dreamt up in the early 80`s when the motor was designed

ed newman wrote:The first such synthetic motor oil independently tested and confirmed to meet industry-accepted tests for defining engine oil properties and performance characteristics was AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 10W-40 in 1972.

suprised me too...But I doubt it was used widely

Very surprising that, Revster.

Back in the 70's VW air-cooled were running on SAE 30 monograde oil & all the boring British Leyland, Ford & Vauxhall cars ran on 20/50 multigrade which was the standard oil for the vast majority of cars.

Post by **andysimpson** » 20 Jun 2007, 20:09

DJZ wrote:
andysimpson wrote:semi syn is fine, it should take 4.5 litres, any more and bad things will happen, i think your dipstick tube needs adjustment.

How do you adjust the dipstick tube?

New oil filter, fill with 4.5 litres of oil, start and run briefly, now you need to get onto dipstcik max mark by cutting down the tube a bit at a time untill its right.

Post by **ermie571** » 20 Jun 2007, 20:17

could you not just make a new mark on the dipstick where the oil sits at full??

probably a really stoopid answer to that....

Emma

Post by **DJZ** » 22 Jun 2007, 15:43

Cheers Andy I will try that when I change my oil next, which is about due. Spooky that!!

Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Jun 2007, 15:48

could you not just make a new mark on the dipstick where the oil sits at full?? Question

Yes, that'll do, for you, until someone else fills it up - Er! Over-fills it..

See this Club Wkipedia link:

http://wiki.80-90.co.uk/index.php/Alter ... gine_1.9TD

Item No.7

Got it about right on mine, roughly between the max and min.

Post by **R0B** » 22 Jun 2007, 15:52

out of the 4.5 litres fill the oil filter before fitting.and smear a bit on the rubber ring..but you already knew that eh....

Post by **HarryMann** » 22 Jun 2007, 17:17

or 2/3 fill it maybe, else you'll regret it, Ugh!

Currently using fully synth FUCHS Diesel Oil from GSF - £15-50 + Vear And Tear for 5 litres - hard to beat, especially with oil temps like mine

Post by **"WEAZLECHIN"** » 24 Jun 2007, 20:19

mate, dont worry about your oil too much, the correct grade and regular oil changes are the key. your running a diesel motor, international hauliers use bulk oil purchased from cheap local companies, "international" means hundreds of thousands of miles per year. recently ive been reading some books on motorcycle racing and the concensus of opinion seems to point to oil changes after each session not even using expensive oil

just oil that is in grade, ie fresh

anyway you could almost use crude in a high miles diesel and get away with it (for a while)

Post by **HarryMann** » 24 Jun 2007, 23:24

..when everything is running at normal oil and water temps, pressures etc, and is nice and stable, that lube routine works well.
Modern trucks do just that, and have a few more gauges and warnings too, than a T25 came with.
Even 1.9 Diesels can find them a fairly heavy load, and the heat built up dragging a brick through the air at anywhere near the motorway speed limit for very long, can take its toll on them - and the oil has a punishing time of it.

If it works hard for its living, and the oil might get very hot at times (whether you know it or not...) , perhaps a synth would be in order?

Post by **SEFSPEED** » 25 Jun 2007, 09:19

Thanks for all your replies - as ever it is much appreciated.