eber help please

Post by **Rozzo** » 08 May 2007, 18:05

thought i'd got a bargain but the eber i've just spent a full day fitting doesn't appear to work?
its a d3l model, and i wonder if anyone can tell me what to test and where please?
if i turn the rheostat switch anti clockwise to the cold position it blows very hard. when i turn it the other way, it blows quite slowly (as i think it should) but then instead of lighting and picking up speed it just blows very slowly and does nowt else?
i've had my hand on the fuel pump and it doesn't appear to do anything?
any hints please as to where to start looking?
oh and it looks as though a previous owner has had the control box apart?
cheers
julian

Post by **maximus** » 08 May 2007, 18:25

Hi mate I have eber on the works van and the diesel pump clicks constantly and you can feel it working with your hand and it blows mega hot in the cab, on it is yours doing that??

I know thats not much help but one can but try

Post by **T'Onion** » 08 May 2007, 18:35

voltage , if it on a split charger start the van then the ebber , if on put a battery charger on it and then start it , it will take a few stop/starts to get the diesel through

Post by **Rozzo** » 08 May 2007, 18:55

theres no fuel at all mark, had the fuel pipe off and its not pumping owt?
wots the little relay for? (tested it and it works but does nowt when plugged in) i suspect its fer the glowplug is it? i've mailed the bloke i bought it off but guess wot,,, no reply 30 hours later

i reckon the control unit may be buggered cos someones been inside it (probs trying to get it working b4 flogging it to me

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about 240 squid fer a control unit so hope it can be made to work.
ahh well,,, live and learn

Post by **Ian Hulley** » 08 May 2007, 19:20

Julian, if it's a 30amp relay with the red,yellow and white (and another which I can't remember) wires going to it then it's a 'get-round the BT 1 hour timer' relay. Ebers out of BT vans usually (if not always) have a timing device wired in to stop the slovernly gits sleeping cosily all day. This relay does away with that timer.

Ian.

Post by **Rozzo** » 08 May 2007, 19:47

dunno ian, its just a little square relay with 4 wires going to it but it doesnt seem to do owt? don't they normally have a relay then?
i need an eber expert i think.
theres also a 3-pin plug thats coupled to nowt? dunno wot thats for?
wen its switched to cold it starts up flat out and a few seconds the later the control unit clicks as tho its going thru its start up cycle which i dont think it should do? i reckon something is wired up wrong

HELP?????????

Post by **Ian Hulley** » 08 May 2007, 19:52

Wait till the weekend Julian, Mark der Ebermeister und Dave der Elektriker will bound cat-like to the rescue.

Mark, will my diagnostic timer jobby help ?

Cheers,Ian.

Post by **Rozzo** » 08 May 2007, 20:02

i'd say it would if its one of them eber things ian,, i think you can reset em with them can't you? and it may tell us wots wrong. does it have a setting that tells you its nacked

Post by **Rozzo** » 09 May 2007, 17:35

the bloke emailed today and said it was definately working ok when he took it out of his camper recently. says the fuel pump should tick but it does nowt. i wonder if the switch is wired up wrong.(its the only bit that doesnt have a multiplug on it.
aw well i'll have another look later

Post by **T'Onion** » 09 May 2007, 18:19

is power getting to the relay ? if it is , is power getting out of the relay ? cant you ask Dan to check your relay for you ? also the switch ? ( sorry or can you check them yourself?

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Post by **T'Onion** » 09 May 2007, 18:22

http://www.espar.com/documents/D3LCc.pdf

i know your is the L and not the LC , but it could help

Post by **Rozzo** » 09 May 2007, 19:36

hi m8
the relays doin nowt. but i took it in the house to a power supply and it works fine,, so the control box int telling the relay to do owt.
is the relay to work the glowplug?
also i've had the multimeter on the fuel pump wires and its getting voltage but the return wire is not grounded altho it is connected but not to a ground wire.
startin to do me head in now

Post by **DiscoDave** » 11 May 2007, 18:15

well i'll be havinbg a look at that tomorrow thenn!!

Post by **T'Onion** » 11 May 2007, 18:27

thas got a pm mr missinglink

Post by **Mocki** » 11 May 2007, 20:57

the fuel pump wires are non polarised, its a electro magnet pulling a diaphram.

Put 12vdc to the fuel pump, and its will click if ok, if you remove said power it clicks again, do it quickly and it pumps......

you need to be really sure you have more than 11.0vdc at the connection nearest the heater when underload, or it will do as you describe, the pump wont even think of pumping iff the voltage is too low.......

posted mobile, blah blah