Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

An alchemy of sparks, copper wire and earth

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

I've just upgraded my dashboard illumination bulbs to LED [white] versions, nice little upgrade!

I also replaced the light bulb in my 'Fog Light' switch on the dash, however it doesn't seemed to have worked. I've used a multimeter to confirm that I have power going to the terminal that powers the light. The actual Fog Light switch works and turns on my front fog lights [when I have my main headlights on] and also turns on my rear fog light.

One thing I did want to confirm was that I only have one rear fog light which is on the offside [Right Side]of my van,that's correct isn't it? I opened up the rear near side light and found that I had a bulb in the slot where the rear fog light bulb would be, but there was no connection underneath it. Seems to be a holder for a spare bulb, but not an actual active slot [if that makes sense?]

If my assumption i correct the does anyone have any other ideas on what I can try next to get the small light indicator to work on my fog light switch?
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

User avatar
CovKid
Trader
Posts: 8411
Joined: 30 Apr 2006, 13:19
80-90 Mem No: 3529
Location: Ralph - Coventry (Retired)
Contact:

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by CovKid »

When you say you've replaced it, with what exactly? In an application like that, its probably easiest to fit a conventional LED and resistor (cheap) to match 12v - pretty much what I've done across my entire dash. Gradually I've been utilising unused warning bulbs in the dash by replacing those too.
Roller paint your camper at home: http://roller.epizy.com/55554/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for MP4 download.

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

Hi CovKid - I replaced it with an LED upgrade bulb from Brickparts.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Fog-and-Ha ... 25ac01c85a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

User avatar
keytouch
Registered user
Posts: 952
Joined: 17 Oct 2007, 22:31
80-90 Mem No: 4484
Location: West Somerset

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by keytouch »

Have you tried it both ways round?
Jonathan

A Camper called Wanda
1983 A reg Bilbo Marlfield conversion, 1900 Diesel 1Y engine

User avatar
marlinowner
Registered user
Posts: 1530
Joined: 28 Jan 2014, 12:02
80-90 Mem No: 13646
Location: Scottish Borders

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by marlinowner »

In reply to your other question, yes just one rear foglight.
1993 SA VW T25/T3 2.5i Microbus/homebrew camper
1981/1968 Marlin Kitcar TR6 Engine

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

@ Keytouch: For this LED bulb there is only one way to fit it, but I know what you mean as the other dash bulb LED upgrades I did had two ways to fit and only one way works.

@ Marlinowner: Thanks for confirming that there is only one rear fog light. I managed to work this out in the end by tracing the connection on the back plate of the light to the pin connector that you plug in. There is no pin connection for what would be the near side fog light. What threw me off was that there was a bulb in this slot, but presumably this is just a handy place to store a spare bulb.

Thanks for everyone's responses so far!!!

So i've tested the voltage of where the fog light LED light would go. Everything seems fine, as in when the switch is off or on the middle setting there is no voltage. Then when it's on it's third setting which is for the rear fog lights, it receives 10 volts.

Image

Image

Here's the LED upgrade.

Image

I'm now stumped :cry:
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

MidLifeCrisis
Registered user
Posts: 566
Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 19:07
80-90 Mem No: 10519
Location: Bagshot, Surrey

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by MidLifeCrisis »

Have you tested the LED ?
1987 Westfalia Van, Petrol 2.0 AGG

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

Yep all working fine.
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

MidLifeCrisis
Registered user
Posts: 566
Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 19:07
80-90 Mem No: 10519
Location: Bagshot, Surrey

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by MidLifeCrisis »

Ok - so you have voltage across the two contacts that mate to the LED and you've tested the LED separately and it works - so the only thing left is that the LED isn't mating to the two contacts - with the copper strip one being the prime candidate I'd guess?!?
1987 Westfalia Van, Petrol 2.0 AGG

User avatar
bigherb
Registered user
Posts: 2581
Joined: 27 Mar 2008, 13:50
80-90 Mem No: 5789
Location: West Kent

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by bigherb »

When you checked the led did you note which way round you had the cables to make it work, the led could have been fitted the wrong way round.
1982 Camper 1970 1500 Beetle Various Skoda's, Ariel Arrow

User avatar
keytouch
Registered user
Posts: 952
Joined: 17 Oct 2007, 22:31
80-90 Mem No: 4484
Location: West Somerset

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by keytouch »

Did you have a working ordinary bulb in there to start with?
Jonathan

A Camper called Wanda
1983 A reg Bilbo Marlfield conversion, 1900 Diesel 1Y engine

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

Thanks 'Keytouch', 'bigherb'& 'MidLifeCrisis' for your replies.

I've decided to leave it for now, jumped into my van and headed down to West Wittering on the south coast for some Kayaking. I'll get back onto this next week and give an update.

For now here are some responses.

"Did you have a working ordinary bulb in there to start with?"
You know what, I never actually tested it before I ordered the LED upgrade. I just presumed it was no longer working and as I was upgrading the rest of my original dash bulbs to LED I went ahead and ordered this one.
So when the LED didn't work as expected, I then tested the original bulb with the multimeter. I used the audible Ohm test and it worked first time. Then later on when I was retracing my original steps I tested it again and it didn't work, so was a bit confused.
When I get back I'll have another test as it will be a nice easy check to confirm that it's not the bulbs / LED but the switch connection.

When you checked the led did you note which way round you had the cables to make it work, the led could have been fitted the wrong way round.
I didn't but will check again, good point.

Ok - so you have voltage across the two contacts that mate to the LED and you've tested the LED separately and it works - so the only thing left is that the LED isn't mating to the two contacts - with the copper strip one being the prime candidate I'd guess?!?
That's what I thought, so when I used the multimeter I checked the exact spot where the LED touches the copper strip, just in case there was some corrosion stopping the flow, it was fine.
I also managed to use a micro screwdriver to push the LED connection against the copper strip once in situ, no joy.

I'll give all of these suggestions a go when I get back, so thanks once again for the help.
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

User avatar
keytouch
Registered user
Posts: 952
Joined: 17 Oct 2007, 22:31
80-90 Mem No: 4484
Location: West Somerset

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by keytouch »

I see you live in Twickenham, I'm just over the river in Ham. Once you're back we could try your bulb in my switch and vice versa if you like.
Jonathan

A Camper called Wanda
1983 A reg Bilbo Marlfield conversion, 1900 Diesel 1Y engine

User avatar
Nathanb
Registered user
Posts: 85
Joined: 19 Jun 2014, 23:22
80-90 Mem No: 13831
Location: Twickenham

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by Nathanb »

Hi Jonathon thanks for the offer, I would have taken you up on it but I've managed to get the old bulb working, but good to know that you're local.

So it looks like the LED replacement is not working. It lights up [very very dim] when using the multimeter, but strangely enough the multimeter doesn't make the audible resistance sound. I then used a wire connection to both the copper strip and spade connection on the LED and no joy. Will have to send it back.

As for the original bulb, I tried the multimeter on it, no joy. Then noticed that the bulb was a little loose in it's housing. Pushed it back in then plugged it back into the Fog Light switch and hey presto it's now working again!!
VW T25 Autosleeper Trident 1991 - 1.9 DG Petrol 5 Speed

MidLifeCrisis
Registered user
Posts: 566
Joined: 20 Nov 2011, 19:07
80-90 Mem No: 10519
Location: Bagshot, Surrey

Re: Fog Light Switch [LED Light]

Post by MidLifeCrisis »

Nathanb wrote:So it looks like the LED replacement is not working. It lights up [very very dim] when using the multimeter, but strangely enough the multimeter doesn't make the audible resistance sound.
Not quite sure what you mean by this - are you saying that you tried to light the LED using just the multimeter? Because I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work?!?!? :?: :?: :?:
1987 Westfalia Van, Petrol 2.0 AGG

Post Reply