2.1 dj, warm starting

Post by **matt** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:13

right
2.1 dj

starts 1st go when stone cold

starts 1st go when at running temp

anything in between, no chance !!!!!!

any ideas ?

Post by **Hacksawbob** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:20

mud in the carb

Post by **tonytech** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:24

OK.
A bit more info please.
Does it crank?
Does the engine turn over at normal speed?
Does the engine splutter?

I'd be thinking either a temp sender fault or air leak after air flow meter.

Pull a plug after a failed start and see if it is wet with fuel.

T

Post by **tonytech** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:25

DJ=Fuel injected.
T

Post by **matt** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:33

normal. ie engine turns over, buty struggles to fire

if i keep my foot to the floor, hard, she goes eventully

deffo no leak after air flow meter.....

if the temp sender near the thermostat housing ?

or am i lost ?

Post by **T'Onion** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:39

Matt is the timing set right ...
are all the vacpipes in good condition
quick check start it up and put the pipe of the dizzy the revs should drop

Post by **matt** » 27 Nov 2005, 21:47

mmmmm

all pipes good, well good in a matt way

tis timed up

will check pullin pipes off tomoz....but seems temp related

Post by **Aidan** » 27 Nov 2005, 22:17

DJ should need no peddle to start, so you need to check the temp senders when it's in fault condition and the afm outputs too......

Post by **HarryMann** » 27 Nov 2005, 22:46

Yes, critical temp sender for start idel is that one behind the the thermostat, and its wiring (fractured - redo the whole thing into isu unit or wherever the hell it goes, long time no DJ) MIne was dodgy about 4" out of temp sender.

Post by **matt** » 28 Nov 2005, 07:46

cheers guys

i hate winter, leave for werk in the dark, come home in the dark

Post by **T'Onion** » 29 Nov 2005, 08:01

any luck Matt ?

Post by **Diamond Hell** » 29 Nov 2005, 10:15

Give him a chance - this IS Matt..... replace gas struts on tailgate? yes. Replace plug leads (that are so old they've locked into the curves around the engine bay.... whoah there, let's not rush into this!!

You HAVE done that last one, haven't you?!

Post by **matt** » 29 Nov 2005, 14:58

a mates just texted with the news that hes got a sensor from scrappers....

kinda changed the HT lead.....in the way that i attempted to, only to find that dg ones are differant to dj's.....

i blame jen

Post by **catmangler** » 01 Dec 2005, 00:40

Be careful stripping back the temp sensor wiring... I never DID find th eother end. Replaced about a foot and a half, 1/4" at a time, as the old one just kept falling apart!

It DOES sound like the temp sender is going open circuit, and causing the injection to go full rich.

TTG

Post by **matt** » 02 Dec 2005, 12:58

right, with a bit a luck, t'onion was spot on

vac ad. on old dizzy not werking
replaced dizzy, re timed, starts on turn of key when hot
mis fire gone

not tryed when semi warm yet

fingers crossed