Inner/Outer Sill and JP rot- Advice needed

[pistachio]

Hello everyone,

We're dragging our beloved T25 out from several years of neglect, and desperately need some advice on the sorry state of her sills (amongst others probably) and necessary welding to get her back on the road. Mechanically she still runs great, after sarran1955 rescued our holiday 3 years ago and virtually rebuilt the engine. Unfortunately the same can't be said for much of the metal work which was completed by the owner previous to us.

I'm hoping the indispensable 80-90 hive mind can look at these photos and advise what welding needs to be done. Also, where can we source inner-sills since JK and Heritage appear to be on constant back-order.

Many thanks.


Starting from the nearside sliding door sill:


Nearside front jacking point:


Sliding door outer sill:


Sliding door outer sill hole:


A closer look at that hole showing the inner sill side:


Sliding door track:


Nearside rear jacking point:


Nearside inner sill:


Nearside rear inner sill previous repair:


Nearside front inner sill previous repair:


And onto the offside outer sill:


Offside rear jacking point:


Offside rear jacking point showing previous repair/monstrosity:


Offside outer sill front:


Offside front jacking point:


Offside inner sill/front jacking point:


Offsider inner sill:


Offsider inner sill previous repair:


Offsider inner sill rear previous repair:



....... Help.

[jim potter]

i think i d be ordering up inner and outer seals both sides . sliding door runner repair sill .and some sheet metal , if your doing it yourself .

jk's , schofields , euro car parts all do the panels .. none seem to be ridiculously expensive .

i've come to the conclusion that all replacements panels require fettling , so its more the removal and correct fitting of the new ones that is more important .

having said that there are far more knowledgeable people on here when it comes to metal work .

[dbz864]

jesus, hate to say it, that needs extensive work, id personally look for another van. You could transplant your interior and engine into another van. Would be easier in my opinion . When was it last on the road? Id say your trailing arms will be shot as well. You could buy the panels ( you will need trailing arm brkts/hangers as well),but you may have nothing to weld them to (sills).

[Plasticman]

thats well shot, as said, tjere is no cheap way to fix it, jim ,not all the panals are available at the moment and some such as the closure plates have to be made,
have a look through here and realiise whats required,both sides
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=110336" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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[pistachio]

Hey,

Thanks for the initial diagnosis, and its mostly as expected.

She was last on the road 3 years ago, so we knew full well she'd be it a fairly rough condition now. Add to that the fact we know the work done on Tilly previously was botched everywhere, and it's no surprise it won't be an easy fix.

None the less we're keen to have a go, and have a competent welder whose ready to take on the challenge.
MM: I'm having a look through that thread now, thanks. Which parts are we likely to have the most difficulty sourcing/need to have made?

Thanks again.
Matt

[Plasticman]

inner sills ,i have some oe ones but they maybe for a project , patterns work so so £130 ish
the lower fridge side pannal needs making to fit the patter lower sill, and you will need the inner closures as per the thread
you can get away with an overpanal but they are not right really if your going to all this trouble,
also the rear jp/arm mounts can be a pain and need lots of fabrication and correct alignment, no one cap fits all im afraid
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[pistachio]

inner sills ,i have some oe ones but they maybe for a project , patterns work so so £130 ish
the lower fridge side pannal needs making to fit the patter lower sill, and you will need the inner closures as per the thread
you can get away with an overpanal but they are not right really if your going to all this trouble,
also the rear jp/arm mounts can be a pain and need lots of fabrication and correct alignment, no one cap fits all im afraid
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OK, will get lots of reading done and come back with more questions if necessary.

[boatbuilder]

Holey moley thats pretty crusty.
Repairing the sill area/track under the sliding door is quite involved, specially as it looks like the inners and outers are pretty badly gone.

The first posts in these pages gives an idea of whats involved with the lower sliding door track and sill area - looks to me like yours needs the full treatment - even more than mine actually - I was lucky in that my inner sills were perfect.

https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... &start=212" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... &start=266" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... &start=298" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[pistachio]

Thanks boatbuilder!

These threads and pictures are really helpful in getting an idea of what will be required. I'm going to show them to the welder at the weekend and see how he feels.....

[CovKid]

Sick I reckon. Depends if he has a happy whistle and cheerful disposition.

[Plasticman]

[jim potter]

thanks MM , like i said i no there are more people far more knowledgeable than me when it comes to metal work.
i had always thought that the inner sills were still available .. at least i no for when i do mine.

i hope whatever choice the pistachio makes isnt to hard on his/her wallet

[Plasticman]

Hehe,optimism is what keep you sane
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[ajsimmo]

Inner sills are available from Schofields
http://www.alanhschofield.com/ourparts/ ... rside.html

[Plasticman]

Have they actually got some in stock now
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