Porsche engine

Post by **Dubstar** » 19 Sep 2006, 12:15

I suppose it's been asked before-though I can't find it-but how and what type of Porsche flat 6 Aircooled engine will fit my van? If any? I currently have a 1981 2ltr Aircooled Westy Joker with an auotmatic gearbox and was just wondering about this conversion, for the future, when funds and time allow. Thanks in anticipation.

Post by **Simon Baxter** » 19 Sep 2006, 19:47

You can fit any engine within reason. just depends on how deep your wallet is.
if you are thinking of "yeah, porsche engines just bolt in them mate" then Im sorry they don't.
I think the falicy stems from the fact the the Porsche 914 had a 2.0l type 4 VW motor, sporting upto 100bhp, and these do infact mate up easily, but they are 4 cylinder and not 6.
How deep is your wallet? how good are you with spanners? because to take on any engine conversion you have to be able to fix it when it goes wrong because your local garage won't want to touch it.

Post by **toomanytoys** » 19 Sep 2006, 20:16

How does £3000 quid plus just for the engine grab yer... then you will need a box to take the power... another £1500 thats for secondhand stuff... and prob the engine will need a refresh..
Oh and then you will need brakes and suspension upgrade... done right prob another £2000... If you really must and have wads to blow... oh and your bus is bodily super...
Nice thought, but very few actually go through with it..

Post by **Dubstar** » 20 Sep 2006, 12:38

MMM. Maybe I'll just put on a performance airfilter and exhaust, and leave it at that. Wallet definitely not deep! Thanks anyway though. I was kinda hoping for the "it bolts straight in" lark. Damn!!!

Post by **toomanytoys** » 22 Sep 2006, 09:51

If it did... there would be a lot of them running round...

Post by **Fastbus** » 29 Sep 2006, 17:25

As well as £5000 for engine and box {depending on what size you want} you will also need oil tank, oil lines, oil thermostat, oil cooler with fan assistance. You will need to make adapters for cv joints, modify the clutch master system and if you can't install yourself you will have to find someone who can.
Porsche 915 or G50 boxes will need heavy modification to fit and the linkage will be an issue as well.

To save costs you can use your 2.0 dk box and purchase a flywheel from Kennedy in the states for engines up to 3.2. Although the dk bos is not as strong, these will last, as long as you don't go to mad!

If you use a 3.6 motor {964 993} you will need to contact www.patrickmotorsport.com as they can supply you with a DME reading 3 piece flywheel kit, but this is about £750.00. You will also need to wire in the Motronic ECU and electric fuel pump and filter.
These engines have more torque at lower range the the smaller 2.0,2.2,2.4, 2.7 & 3.0.

But beware, make sure your engine is complete, because if things are missing, Porsche prices arn't as forgiving as your VW parts are!

This is a big conversion and there are other matters to take in to consideration to improve the installation.
I will be glad to give you any info with the conversion.

Good luck

Fastbus
creator of the 3.6 Porsche powered T3 with a touch of Nitrous

as feature in Ultra VW

Post by **last red star** » 27 Oct 2006, 20:47

hi i ran a 2.7 in my crew cab in the early 80s . ibought a 1.6 that was only a year old . had loads of fun in it . the early engines are normaly quite cheep . undre £1000.00 . you have to make up a flywheel but its not rocket stuff , also need a oil tank behind rear wheel but it loads of fun but not good on fuel.i have a mate that normaly has early engines for sale .

Post by **PEET** » 27 Nov 2006, 19:44

Ok so this is my long term dream project 5yrs+ but the porsche part is the scariest bit, these were my thoughts so i need correcting and ideas to encourage and educate me.

The van will be bodily excellent and 100% (i am looking at a low mileage LHD ex service vehicles.) and all body mods will be done prior to transplanting the porsche parts including suspension and possibly the 911 brakes tho they would be done before the engine conversion for sure!

Would it not be cost effective to get a complete salvage 911 circa £5K? - I have found them and over here with various breakers - i have even found MoT cars with rust for £6.5K! - still scarey money tho!! Also i found out that Switzerland was the cheapest place for breaking porsches due to strict condition of vehicle laws - well it was a few years ago when i got the info from a porche fanatic...

I would like a 911 for this but i need to talk to people to tell me the best one to go for for reliability, sizing, ease of fit etc etc everywhere i can find out this info.

So ideas and opinions please - maybe it'd be better to get one from Germany already done without the headaches but would i be satisfied? Let me know! Jus wana chat bout this with people who have been there done that been skint sold the house...

Thanx Peet

Post by **Fastbus** » 03 Dec 2006, 17:40

Are you mechanicly minded?

If so then build it your self.

Buying salvage?
Good idea but you will have a lot of parts left over, which on the good side side could return you some money back.

Go for at least a 3.2 motor but a 3.6 in my eyes is a stronger unit with more power.

Be prepared for spending a lot of money because it won't end there.

If you wan't some advice call me as i can help!

Paul G aka Fastbus
07795 182459

Post by **PEET** » 08 Dec 2006, 14:55

I'll be doing it myself and i've rebuilt 4 vehicles so far and have rebuilt and uprated quite a few but never anything to this level. I'll probably look for a 3.6 donor car then. Then it's a case of wheer do you begin a transplant like this! So All advice appreciated - i heed advice and prefer to learn from other peoples experience rather than get it wrong with a costly ego and stupid pride!

Post by **Fastbus** » 12 Dec 2006, 20:29

Like i said, give me a call.

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