E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Syncro 4&4 Discussion and Q&A last answered over 2 years ago.
You may also want to visit the Wiki(pedia) for a more structured index of T25 repair, maintenance, technical and ownership topics (browse for Syncro links)

You can find further syncro specific information on the Syncronauts website.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9609
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by HarryMann »

Ok, this is from the US, but fuel here phase separates these days (anyone here with a Hoonda Quad, expect a sticky needle jet if left for more than a month)

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

max and caddy
Registered user
Posts: 1931
Joined: 21 Feb 2012, 21:47
80-90 Mem No: 0
Location: lancaster uk

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by max and caddy »

No Hondas but have a pair of Suzuki quad runners....one 2wd and one 4x4...sort of classics now as they are 87 ish.

Ones in bits...think they would be quite at home in the back of the sika.


Carb gunges up quite happily anyway!

User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9609
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by HarryMann »

Float chamber needle valves stick closed it seems, been told this is evry common with today's fuels, didn't used to be of a problem, now in as little as a month fuel phase separates and ethanol dries out or corrodes certain parts.

Have had this twice on a Honda Quad, quite a new one too, otherwise its as reliable as the sun coming up

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

User avatar
syncropaddy
Registered user
Posts: 887
Joined: 17 Oct 2005, 22:46
80-90 Mem No: 1019
Location: Gorey, Co. Wexford, Ireland

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by syncropaddy »

HarryMann wrote:Ok, this is from the US, but fuel here phase separates these days (anyone here with a Hoonda Quad, expect a sticky needle jet if left for more than a month)

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

Oddly enough I have a 300cc Honda Big Red here that was rescued from my ex's house last year. It had been in a shed for about 5 years. I took it home checked the oil and jump started it. Started first time to my surprise using what was in the tank. I drove it around the house during which time the internals of the exhaust system disintegrated and the brake master cylinder blew its seals as I tried to stop.

The only time I have seen fuel go off and be unusable was in a boat with a diesel engine ....
syncropaddy


One Syncro, five Mercedes Benzs and a rocket ship

User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9609
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by HarryMann »

Just goes to prove...

fuels aren't what they used to be :D

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

User avatar
rollercoaster
Registered user
Posts: 947
Joined: 10 Dec 2008, 20:30
80-90 Mem No: 6231
Location: Carmarthenshire Ceridigion border

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by rollercoaster »

:rofl

Imagine the obstacle course made out of furniture,
and the unsilenlanced Big Red trashing the place..
Some wild party Paddy?
You were running on moonshine!

:idea:
Live as if you were to die tomorrow
Learn as if you were to live forever

Syncro Danbury 2.0 petrol AGG
 

User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9609
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by HarryMann »

:rollin

Met a bloke the other day, who spit-roasted and two-pack sprayed his Mini Cooper 'S' body shell in his kitchen diner (nice big sliding patio doors)

Can't have been as dashing as Syncropaddy though, because he didn't finish the story by saying he'd then driven it into the airing cupboard to dry :|

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

User avatar
ghost123uk
Registered user
Posts: 6855
Joined: 10 Mar 2006, 10:15
80-90 Mem No: 2585
Location: John in Malpas, in the very S. W. part of Cheshire.
Contact:

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by ghost123uk »

There has been much talk about this of course (some on here iirc). It seems there is lots of evidence of the Ethanol damaging various rubbers, plastics and even metals (brass in particular). If / When I winter store a vehicle, (my 59 Matchless 650 for instance) I make sure it has no Ethanol content in the fuel. Fortunately many of the larger filling stations sell 98ron "super" or "premium" petrol that do not contain Ethanol. (The exception is Shell V power that does :shock:)
Got a new van, but it's a 165bhp T4 [shock horror] Accurate LPG Station map here

User avatar
syncropaddy
Registered user
Posts: 887
Joined: 17 Oct 2005, 22:46
80-90 Mem No: 1019
Location: Gorey, Co. Wexford, Ireland

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by syncropaddy »

rollercoaster wrote::rofl

Imagine the obstacle course made out of furniture,
and the unsilenlanced Big Red trashing the place..
Some wild party Paddy?
You were running on moonshine!

:idea:

:rofl

Id say there is a fair bit of E10 and E15 in moonshine .......
syncropaddy


One Syncro, five Mercedes Benzs and a rocket ship

User avatar
HarryMann
Admin/Mod
Posts: 9609
Joined: 30 Sep 2005, 11:40
80-90 Mem No: 379
Location: Herts, UK

Re: E10 and E15 ethanol containing fuels

Post by HarryMann »

Id say there is a fair bit of E10 and E15 in moonshine .......

So that's why the petrol sales figures go up unexpectedly in Ireland approaching Christmas is it...

The 80-90 Tech Wikipedia Your 1st port of call :idea

1.9TD Syncro Doka / Syncro Kastenwagen / 16" Kombi Camper
Syncronaut No. 1

Locked