1.9petrol MPG

[elevensies]

i have done a quick search, and nothing conclusive came up, so to the point,

im looking at buying a 1.9 petrol high top, whats the MPG im likely to get please.

im not into speed, i have a caddy and a motorbike for those days, i want quality ride and MPG,
your input greatly received

Mark

[Mickyfin]

Depends on what you are carrying I guess, but on acerage I'm getting 20MPG and thats an empty Caravelle 7 seater with me, three passengers, and some tools etc.

Yours being an hightop, less mpg I would hazard a guess, but as said, depends what you are hauling in it.

[elevensies]

fully kitted out camper.

so it would seem im not looking like even 20 mpg then?

[Mickyfin]

Nope. Have you considered adding an LPG kit?

[elevensies]

yes,
although lpg wont affect the mpg, it only affects the wallet which is what i suppose were all looking for

i have been reading on wiki all the differing mpg figures, seems between 15-20 is the norm
i seem to recall my old bay was doing that. but that was when petrol was £2.00 a gallon (or thereabouts)

[Mickyfin]

I feel your pain, petrol here is almost €8 a gallon

[ghost123uk]

On a recent 1800 mile trip around France, our DG powered Hi-Top averaged a tad over 23 mpg ( I was quite happy with that )

It does around 20 MPG on LPG by the way

[jamesandtheopenroad]

My lpg'd DG does around 20 mpg combined and up to 24ish on a motorway run (with a tail wind).

[Cruz]

yes,
although lpg wont affect the mpg, it only affects the wallet which is what i suppose were all looking for

i have been reading on wiki all the differing mpg figures, seems between 15-20 is the norm
i seem to recall my old bay was doing that. but that was when petrol was £2.00 a gallon (or thereabouts)

If you want MPG then buy a small diesel car

but converting to LPG does mean you can get 30mpg equivalent (I get 17mpg on LPG and fuel price difference is 75%)

Here is a calculator for you to see how long it would take to brake even, then how much you save. Just fill in your mileage http://www.gasure.co.uk/4steve.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In August 2006 we converted. I use the van every day and do just under 8000 miles a year and it took us 9 months or 6113 miles to break even according to that calculator* (petrol 97.9 LPG 42.9 conversion £850)

*I took the historic fuel price figures from http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fu ... chive.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now the conversion SAVES US £1200 a year (131.9 petrol, 74.9 lpg)

[Ralf85]

Earlier this year I actually got 30mpg from my 1.9 engine. Mind you that was on a run at a steady 50mph on A roads. I was pleasantly surprised. On motorways at a steady 60mph I reckon to get about 22mpg. Around town on short runs forget it.

[Cruz]

30? Unless it's a diesel you miscalculated

[Ralf85]

30? Unless it's a diesel you miscalculated

No no miscalculation. I measured the mileage in both directions. It was very steady driving (verry gentle on the throttle and brakes) on flat roads along the A12. I will probably never achieve that anywhere else.

[jamesandtheopenroad]

I got 29mpg once from Oldham to Reading before I lpg'd her.

[ninja.turtle007]

30? Unless it's a diesel you miscalculated

No no miscalculation. I measured the mileage in both directions. It was very steady driving (verry gentle on the throttle and brakes) on flat roads along the A12. I will probably never achieve that anywhere else.

Did you check the next fill up too?

It depends on the pump. Mostly I get between 29 & 32mpg (TDI) but occasionally I will get 37mpg but on the next full tank it can be low 20's which if averaged put me back at 29 -32. This is due to different pumps shutting off at different levels.

[LeeME3]

If you're going to keep the van for a few years / do the necessary miles then LPG is definitely worth considering. Also, I see you're in Lincolnshire so you have one of the acknowledged best LPG fitters fairly close in Grantham at CamperShack (they fit the Gas Sure kit). Members on here get a 5% discount on fitting.

Of course as more vans are fitted you may well find one that already has LPG on it but, personally, I'd buy a van that suits you in all other respects and then fit the LPG if it needs it - if the van you choose happens to have it then that is a bonus.

The online calcualtor linked previously is a very useful tool...you'll soon see that if you only do a couple of thousand miles per annum it will take quite a while to recoup the costs of LPG fitting, however, use the van more (and they benefit from being used) and obviously you'll recoup and start saving quicker. Also, rural Lincolnshire is not a bad place to buy LPG - I can get it for 71.9 and get 22MPG on a tin top with a decent 1.9DG in it (according to those who know better than me). Finally, that calculator makes no allowance for any increase in value that fitting an LPG kit may confer - the jury is out on this but my personal opinion is that as fuel costs increase vans with (quality) LPG installations should be the more sought after and will sell easier, one would like to hope this is reflected in higher prices but we'll maybe need to wait and see on that (i.e. you never know when government might screw the pooch by whacking up the tax on LPG - although as I understand it there is an agreement in place to prevent this for now).

As an aside, I much prefer driving my van on LPG, quieter and smoother and it certainly makes getting through the emissions part of the MOT rather easy (oh and you don't have to pay London Congestion Charge - not that I'd ever take my van to London but you never know when congestion charging may spread).

All my personal opinion of course.