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would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 20:01
by bingbing
I have a T25 1.9cc 1984 VW camper. Watercooled that needs a new exhaust. I have been offered an brilliant exhaust at a great price but it is off a 1983 volkswagen T25 Air-cooled 1970cc Camper Van 1970cc. Does anyone know if the exhaust i've been offered would be compatable. Mine seems to have two manifolds & the one offered seems to only have one. Could the van or the exhaust be converted to fit or is it a no go.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 20:11
by kevtherev
won't fit

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 20:14
by 82camper
is that brilliant exhaust stainless and if so could i be cheeky and have for my 1982 1970cc Aircooled??

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 20:29
by bingbing
82camper wrote:is that brilliant exhaust stainless and if so could i be cheeky and have for my 1982 1970cc Aircooled??
emails me at sarabingham@tiscali.co.uk & i'll send you the details. Its a performance exhaust (which i think is top of the range) Gutted it won't fit mine as its a bargain

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 20:52
by bigherb
If you still have the original exhaust system 1984 DG's had the same box as the 2ltr Aircooled. Best put some pics up it may be the new box has different type of fitting but compatible.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 21:16
by bingbing
These are the only pics I have. Any help appreciated

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 07:19
by bigherb
It depends on what exhaust system you already have.
This is Aircooled but uses the same silencer as early DG's. If your silencer looks similar to this then it will fit, although aftermarket exhausts can be a bit tight in the space available.
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If you have the later DG system like this then it won't fit.
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Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 21:17
by bingbing
J11610 exhaust.jpg

http://www.justkampers.com/shop/t25/ori ... 11610.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the exhaust which fits my van that I could buy off Just Kampers. What do you think? Is the one I've been offered a possible fit or for someone without much mechanical knowledge would converting the one I've been offered be a pipe dream. As it is a much superior exhaust.

I have attached a pic of the exhaust currently on my van

Thanks for all your help.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 22:35
by CovKid
Then yes it will fit fella. The only thing I will say is that performance or not, the can will rot out in no time. Top of the range it is not. Lots on here about the short-lived nature of those bean cans. However, take a look at my WIKI on this very subject as it applies to you:

https://club8090.co.uk/wiki/Exhausts_Custom" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

also:

https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... i#p7752355" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and:

https://club8090.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.p ... i#p7683062" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Biggest problem you may have is getting the old one off. You won't actually get any performance increase with the swap but you do at least then have a header on to which you can bolt more interesting and more readily available cans that may well improve performance.

Have fun experimenting! :D

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 15:49
by Cruz
The justkrappers systems is £329 for chinese cheese and will last 2-5 years if you are really really lucky

VWspeedshop sell a fully stainless system that fits both early and late van for £435

http://www.vwspeedshop.com/product.php? ... featured=Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£100 more but it will last longer than the van. I think Fairwynds has one if you want to ask him about it.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 20:57
by CovKid
I think you're off on a tangent there Cruz. He only wants to know if that one will fit, not how much is a complete stainless system :D

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 21:36
by Cruz
Tangent? He says he needs a new system and that's one of the options

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 06:21
by CovKid
Sorry Cruz, don't misunderstand me. I'm not having a go. I just can't see where he asked that question. The one he's been offered only replaces the silencer box on its own (the header being part of that) which quite a few people opt for on an early exhaust system. It just bolts on where the old silencer did and often buys a few years if the rest of the pipework is ok.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:43
by shepster
From the look of your photos the bit's you've been offered only replace the actual silencer, instead of bolting directly onto the 'j tubes' as the original does the 'curly bit' bolts on first and then the silencer.

You may also find that you have trouble with it fouling the valance, how many parts have you been offered because it looks like you will still need the other four bits.

Re: would exhaust be compatable

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 19:11
by bingbing
I've decided that the moths in my purse will have to move out of the way. Isnt the saying 'a tight man pays twice' I could see this happening here. So have decided to bite the bullet & buy new.

I have found these which seem to be the best deal. (or am I being tight again). Available from STATUS VW
The best quality VW parts available. Sales : 01788 552900

Exhaust Silencer for T2 and T25
£82.10
251 10079
Made to last, this heavy gauge steel silencer features continuous seam welds instead of spot welds found on cheaper, less durable versions. Made to the original VW specification, they fit T2s (1700cc–2000cc) 1972–1979; and T25s (2000cc Aircooled and 1900cc watercooled) up to 1985. Comes with studs to mount to the heat exchanger – and, as it’s the original specification, should fit first time!
&
Exhaust Tailpipe for T2 and T25
£11.25
251 10078
Fits T2 and T25 1700cc, 1800cc and 2000cc Aircooled engines; and T25 1900cc watercooled engine up to July 1895.

Purchase price: £93.35
Shipping: £8.25
VAT 20%: £20.32
Total:
£121.92
What do you think? Just campers is £137 for what seems to be the same items.