Virgin DG1900 Stripdown With Photos. Oooer!

[ajsimmo]

There's also a -1 available for the early DG (A suffix, different valve timing).

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[itchyfeet]

If you know your gear size, I might have a DG cam that's a bit better. Perhaps something in between good enough to regrind, and bad enough to bin. What lifters are you going to use? New hydros from BW?

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Andrew this is a budget engine to get him going, done with as little cost as possible as he is out of work, he can't afford a new cam or new lifters.
As a minimum he needs a crank gear or swap crank and a cam gear or swap cam

[ajsimmo]

Yes Paul, I understand that but I was also responding to your post saying "no OEM cams left so what to do?" Others might read this and not realise there's plenty of new DG cams left, just no 2.1s.
I can probably help out with a used cam (subject to gear size) but I'm worried about combining with used lifters. It might not last 1000miles!

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[itchyfeet]

looking at the case that's appart ( not sure why you buy an engine stand and work on the floor?)

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and the spare crank



they are both from early engines with the early bearings, so I see no reason why they can't be swapped
main bearings and cranks main journals seem to last forever so there is a good chance they are fine but but I would as a minimum check the big ends.

need to get a better picture of the rod bolt nuts, I think non stretch bolts have what looks like a washer as part of the nut I assume to reduce friction
Andrew can you confirm?
this would tell you if you can release them to check without the cost of new bolts.

Stretch have long threads Right hand side of pic

P1050729 by Paul_Barr, on Flickr

[itchyfeet]

Yes Paul, I understand that but I was also responding to your post saying "no OEM cams left so what to do?" Others might read this and not realise there's plenty of new DG cams left, just no 2.1s.

OK I didn't know DG were available sorry, I will E D I T

[itchyfeet]

I can probably help out with a used cam (subject to gear size) but I'm worried about combining with used lifters. It might not last 1000miles!

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OK I understand so in this case he should probably reuse his cam with a swapped gear and ensure the lifters are kept in the right place.

[ajsimmo]

I can probably help out with a used cam (subject to gear size) but I'm worried about combining with used lifters. It might not last 1000miles!

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OK I understand so in this case he should probably reuse his cam with a swapped gear and ensure the lifters are kept in the right place.

That might be a solution. I've never attempted to swap gears on a riveted cam, but I understand it's been done. Can anyone out there using one confirm success and best method?
I hope the matching lifters were kept in order and marked up?

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[ajsimmo]

Alternatively I have one of the Heritage low quality chexpensive cams (Chinese blank, reground air-cooled, approx -6 gear with aluminium rivets). I'm not going to use it...

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[itchyfeet]

Alternatively I have one of the Heritage low quality chexpensive cams (Chinese blank, reground air-cooled, approx -6 gear with aluminium rivets). I'm not going to use it...

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How does that help? He would still need to replace rivets and change the gear

[itchyfeet]

That might be a solution. I've never attempted to swap gears on a riveted cam, but I understand it's been done. Can anyone out there using one confirm success and best method?

Not personally but at least one person on here is using the cam adapter from tencentlife that's bolted on with M6!!
I have one in my 2.1 I'm going to fit soon.
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So I'd say the M7 with high tensile and threadlock would be the way to go.
I posted a link before

bolting it with M7 bolts

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riveting it .

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[ajsimmo]

I thought this was a "just get it running at minimum cost" engine? It's the same cam VWHeritage use in all their SSP branded recons, and they say they've had no complaints (except mine!). If you fit it, it will run. I won't say it's free just yet, but it might be... I'd call that pretty helpful!

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[itchyfeet]

I thought this was a "just get it running at minimum cost" engine? It's the same cam VWHeritage use in all their SSP branded recons, and they say they've had no complaints (except mine!). If you fit it, it will run. I won't say it's free just yet, but it might be... I'd call that pretty helpful!

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can you run a new cam on old lifters? thought that was not a good idea but ypu know better than me.
if you can then I guess thats a good option seeing as his old cam needs a new gear anyway but not sure I'd be happy with aluminium rivets and -6 would be pretty slopy so probably need to swap gear either way.

[ajsimmo]

It's not ideal to use old lifters, but they'll do a lot better on a new cam than on a wrong used one. If you're swapping gears then I'd say use your existing cam. I suggested the new one as an alternative to a swapped gear frankencam. Have the old lifters been kept in order?

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[maxstu]

Back again! We've been dog walking all day for the Cinnamon Trust.
Wow. Theres a lot to digest. More coming in next few minutes after l play catch up

[maxstu]

This came out of the sump. Nothing missing from crank l think? Pistons (Standard) and rings all good. Nothing missing from heads or valve train. Going back to carb. Will dig it out tomorrow. Hang in there while l add more.