I think a few people should take a chill pill.......
The guy is a newbie and he will have come from other VW forums.. with some of the rants he has recieved whats he gonna do?? Go back and say what a bunch of A holes this forum is.......
With regard to his original question (that several 2L Aircooled owners have answered)..
Make sure it is well serviced and correctly set up.. dont assume that the correct Dizzy etc is in place and make sure you use the correct procedure to time it (not the same as a Bay etc if fitted with twin vac unit)
DONT fit a 009.. this will be next to useless..
Make sure the original carbs are in good nick (leak badly with age..).. But as said.. change gear early and dont expect 70 bhp to haul 2+ tons around at the speed of light...
jason k wrote:in fairness chap if you read all of weasel chins posts they have been a little derogatory and unhelpful. i find the volkszone remark a little unnessacary too, do you want to send members away just because they have a differing opinion?? i always like healthy discussion me!! people post here for advice and help, not sarcasm and "your van is crap" attitude displayed earlier. what a rubbish attitude to take with people.
Agree that they were a little derogatory but not in a nasty way, just Weazlechin giving his opinion, same as you are giving yours about Aircooled.......just as Smithyblue bus was a bit over the top inhis reply. I'm a big fan of healthy discussion, good to know someone one else on here is too, you'll find that a lot of people on here don't like it
There is a whole different topic being uncovered here.......
I originally had a 73 bay with 1600 engine then a 77 bay camper with a 2L engine and have to say it was possibly the most reliable engine I have owned. Worlds apart from the 1600 plus it could cruise at illegal speeds for hours and heat exchangers were well maintained so heat was seldom a problem.
BUT, the T25 is built like a bridge and is sooo much heavier than a bay so I can't see any way that it can perform the same way.
Having said that, if a 2L Aircooled T25 had been offered to me when I was shopping I would have probably jumped at it. Best van I eventually came across was my 1.9DG but I may even have taken a diesel
well thanks for all the replys anyway guys some good some not so good.will service the van next weekend sort timing out too.it runs real well right now it just seemed slow uphills but now i know what there like ill live with it.just too top it off now the master cylinder is leaking now ,and the starter morotr turns over real slow too so got to sort that out then its all ready too go to scotland for 2 weeks yiippppeeeeee
wow feathers flying in this thread . My 2l is the same great on the flat but real real slow uphill. Even the slightest hill the speed bleeds away. I checked the timing and all was well but notice the mixture is lean . There is a marked differance when the choke is on and the old girl goes up the hills much better so maybe that is the problem.
70 BHP 25 years ago is probably about 50 BHP now so every little helps . Fuel consumption is ok by classic standards if I go below 60mph its not to bad but drinks it above 65 . I use it for pleasure and family holidays so its a cost you can carry in comparison to staying in a hotel it works out much less in money terms .
As for wc and diesel hey each to there own they each have merits but if we are honest the performance factor is crap on all types in comparison to modern stuff but thats not why we own them is it.
It would be nice to try and get a better uphill performance but sometimes it is fun crawling up a big steep hill makes the kids die of embarassment so its not all bad.
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"It would be nice to try and get a better uphill performance but sometimes it is fun crawling up a big steep hill makes the kids die of embarassment so its not all bad."
Get some faulty heat exchangers and the kids will sleep on those long uphill journeys.
well nice too see im not the only one going slow too.seems it could be a new starter motor soon aswell.turns over slow sometimes then its ok other times and sometimes really slow like it wont make it but it always starts(now i said that bet the "bar-steward" dont start in the morning)
smithybluebus wrote:well nice too see im not the only one going slow too.seems it could be a new starter motor soon aswell.turns over slow sometimes then its ok other times and sometimes really slow like it wont make it but it always starts(now i said that bet the "bar-steward" dont start in the morning)
Another fond trait of the T25 A/C? mine has been doing that for the last 3 years - mind you I use the same battery for the grass cutter - It's OK during its jollies but tends to get lazy lying around the garage after a few weeks.
TR
If you never have a route planned ...how can you ever be lost?
Just to give everyone an idea of how heavy a (in my case) hightop type 2 t3 campervan is, my one is about 3.2 tonnes kerb weight. A tin top or pop-up top campervan would not weigh that much less than my one.
Now consider that my Autohomes campervan has a 2.0 litre Aircooled engine that can only produce 70 bhp, which makes a power to weight ratio of about 20 bhp per tonne.
This will explain why a type 2 t3 campervan takes a long time to accelerate and why they struggle uphill. It's a simple matter of physics and mechanics.
As for fuel economy, 12 mpg ??? Are you sure that you don't have split fuel hoses ??? These must be checked without any delay at all.
Also check the carburettors for air and fuel leaks. Get them profesionally rebuilt if they are suspect and do not waste your money on brand new ones, they are usually crap !!!
The distributor its self should require very little servicing. These ones are fitted with a hall sensor rather than points, so the only thing you may need to replace (if necessary) are the rotor arm, cap and possibly HT leads. Sadly as far as I know dual vacuum units are very hard to come by unless anyone knows any different.
Whatever you do, avoid any mechanical only advance distributors and single vacuum advance distributors. These will not work with the twin carburettor setup at all.
The correct timing of the CU engine is the following:-
Timing: 5° ± 1° ATDC with the vacuum hose connected.
Idle speed: 850 ± 50 RPM
Anyway I hope the above info will help everyone.
My Autohomes Komet (8' 6" tall) type 2 T3 campervan manages to do on average 25 mpg (combination of some motorway, country roads and in some cases gridlocked roads). It has managed to do about 30-odd mpg on a very long traffic free run (over 200 miles in one go).
In my case I'm very glad I went for the 2.0 litre Aircooled mainly because of no radiators, water jackets, sheared off headbolts nor rotten bodywork to worry about. In fact there's very little to go wrong with them.
The main thing to look out for is oil leaks, pay particular attention to the pushrod tube seals. If there are any serious oil leaks, then these must be fixed without any delay at all. Do not ignore the oil warning light.
I acutally had a look at a 1.9 litre watercooled which is 5 years newer than my campervan and it looked in a very sorry state. What was described as a little bit of rust is what I would describe as serious body rot !!! The owner of that watercooled campervan also told me that he had the engine replaced after the old one blew up without warning (the temperature gauge was reading normal at the time). That gave me a few alarm bells to say the least.
thanks phade for your info ill check all leads and timing at the weekend.mine does about 26 mpg and runs sweet just wanted too know if its right thats all.thanks all for info ta john
will try it on the wife I like the kids they will choose my nursing home when Im old.
Anybody know of anyone in north wales that can set the carbs for me for a fair price
try steve shaw in buckley. www.gasure.co.uk
top chap who knows his onions!!!
smithy when you change the starter make sure you change the bush in the bellhousing too.
i had a similar problem since i bought my Aircooled. it turns out there are two different starters for these motors. mine had the "wrong one" in it. it would last about six months then die. changed back to the other type and now fine!!! may be worth loking at
