Anti roll bar question

[syncrodoug]

Do these cash jobs involve entering banks out of hours?

[lloydy]

Do these cash jobs involve entering banks out of hours?

Well, i have heard heating engineers called "robbing ba***ards"

[jed the spread]

Strange how they are standard size? Guess springs have sagged.
Yep mr futbus will get an order, getting some cash jobs lined up as we speak
Or buy new springs and shocks, will check the difference money wise

Just DONT buy Seikels, I will show you why next time I see you. http://www.futbus.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; will see you right, on their soon to be on the market product

jed

[lloydy]

will be using dave, price will dictate how soon, wife is starting to want a slice of my private work pie
Fair enough really.
Can i see a discount for an how to ad on your new website

[jed the spread]

will be using dave, price will dictate how soon, wife is starting to want a slice of my private work pie
Fair enough really.
Can i see a discount for an how to ad on your new website

Best talk to the organ grinder instead of the monkeys

jed

[Simon Baxter]

How much room do you have behind the wheel? is the wheel central in the arch?
Have you set the castor?
Could be a cheap, easy fix.
Take a picture of the radius rod adjustment and post back.
Does the van like going in straight lines but reluctant to turn in?

[torchy]

Take it off, you soon get used to not haing it fitted. I only remember that mine is in the shed when anyone posts a thread about them

That's interesting? so you you've taken off the ARB ?

[lloydy]

How much room do you have behind the wheel? is the wheel central in the arch?
Have you set the castor?
Could be a cheap, easy fix.
Take a picture of the radius rod adjustment and post back.
Does the van like going in straight lines but reluctant to turn in?

I would say the wheel isn't central, this is drivers side and radius rod


And this is passenger side

(i have got new radius rod bushes, just need to fit them )


is caster adjustment a DIY or garage job?

[Simon Baxter]

Garage.
Castor gives you your self centring action.
Castor increases with suspension lift (makes it worse, gives it too much) that's why raised vans drive like a bag of sh!t and are a "idiot" to turn in, and heavy off road.
Not really enough adjustment on the rods either, so you end up screwing one to the end of the adjustment and setting the other to match 9usually but not always)
Although castor makes the steering wheel spin back to the centre quickly i find that vans with high castor wander about badly too, it just makes them wank to drive.
Castor won't really pull the tyres off so you can set it really to personal preferance, but adjusting castor impacts on the other angles quite badly so it's Castor - camber - tracking in that order, and if you've moved them a long way 9as you usually do) then you probably end up doing the job twice, once to get somewhere near, off and on the ramp then back on again to get it as close as you can.
I tend to pretty much ignore what the databook says, old vans, usually bent in some way or another and setting to factory setings isn't always possible so it takes a bit of experience and trial and error to make them work.

[lloydy]

Yep, have to admit initial turn in is heavy, but put this down to having power steering but not yet connected.
One last question, if i take it somewhere like a landrover garage, will they need the figures (if so where would i get them for a 16") or will they just know what to do?
Cheers

[Simon Baxter]

Depends if they are capable of working out their own set of "settings" for you or not.
Use the factory ones, they probably won't be able to achieve them so just get as close as they can and make sure both sides are equal (well, again, that comes back to the first bit and if they are capable of dialling in settings to overcome road camber etc)

[Simon Baxter]

Take it off, you soon get used to not haing it fitted. I only remember that mine is in the shed when anyone posts a thread about them

That's interesting? so you you've taken off the ARB ?

WHS, doesn't take long to get used to it, take it off when your going off road and revel in more articulation.

[andisnewsyncro]

Can honestly say I've not missed the ARB since I remoed it when a drop link sheared last July - it even went through it's MOT in December without one. No idea if it should have done or not though

[youde4]

Whats it like going round corners now then with out the ARB on? Luckily my armrests keep me in the seats at the moment when cornering, but without the ARB im scared they'll break and ill go flying out the window!

[Aidan]

get the tracking done first, if the suspension has been worked on previously there's no guarantee that the radius rod lengths are right, do the caster and the camber and toe in that order; a few vans have had bumps which aren't known about and things can be well out, Terry's old one had