Aircooled engine problems
Moderators: User administrators, Moderators
- robthechemist
- Registered user
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 11:54
- 80-90 Mem No: 4551
- Location: Brighouse, West Yorks
- Contact:
- steve8090
- R.I.P.
- Posts: 861
- Joined: 07 Oct 2005, 16:21
- 80-90 Mem No: 2
- Location: Member No.2 Club founder North Wales
- Contact:
Give Simon at Brickwerks a try, not sure if he is back in work yet, but he's probably your best bet and closest, other than than book it in with us.
Steve Shaw
Club80-90 Founder Member

Full Service, LPG conversions, Security and Camper Accessories.
see http://www.gasure.co.uk for full details.
01244 659740
Club80-90 Founder Member

Full Service, LPG conversions, Security and Camper Accessories.
see http://www.gasure.co.uk for full details.
01244 659740
- robthechemist
- Registered user
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 11:54
- 80-90 Mem No: 4551
- Location: Brighouse, West Yorks
- Contact:
I 've just have the van at brickwerks before Simon went into hospital for a full service. It runs better (not firing on just 3 cylinders..) but is still fairly lethargic and thirsty.
How far away are you from Brighouse, West Yorks Steve?
How far away are you from Brighouse, West Yorks Steve?
It's hereditary you know - if your parents can't have kids, neither can you.
- The Reverend Pimp Daddy
- Registered user
- Posts: 1149
- Joined: 27 Aug 2006, 10:03
- 80-90 Mem No: 3275
- Location: Cheshire
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 4
- Joined: 08 Dec 2007, 13:34
- 80-90 Mem No: 4519
- Location: Milford Surrey
Hi Rob,
Just wondering whether you are expecting a bit much from the old girl?
There have been similar postings from new T25 air cooled owners.
These vans are pretty heavy and with only 70bhp(Thats from a new 2 litre engine!) max they are never going to set the tarmac on fire.
They should when set up right by able to cope with most hills although slowly.Use lower gears to keep motor spinning rather than labouring.4 speed gearbox also restricts flexibility as there is often the dreaded "hole" in the ratios when say fourth is too high but you have to wait until speed drops enough before going for third!!
Mine has done 110000 from new and still cruises at 60-65,although motorway inclines drops this to 50-55 and causes great fun playing catch-up/overtaken by the artics.
Fuel consumption is around 20mpg.More on a long run,less when you cane it
There is one particularly steep hill on way to coast down my way and we all give Daisy a huge cheer if she can hold 25-30 in second all the way up!!
Remember you will get there eventually.
Best Regards and enjoy your van!!
Just wondering whether you are expecting a bit much from the old girl?
There have been similar postings from new T25 air cooled owners.
These vans are pretty heavy and with only 70bhp(Thats from a new 2 litre engine!) max they are never going to set the tarmac on fire.
They should when set up right by able to cope with most hills although slowly.Use lower gears to keep motor spinning rather than labouring.4 speed gearbox also restricts flexibility as there is often the dreaded "hole" in the ratios when say fourth is too high but you have to wait until speed drops enough before going for third!!
Mine has done 110000 from new and still cruises at 60-65,although motorway inclines drops this to 50-55 and causes great fun playing catch-up/overtaken by the artics.
Fuel consumption is around 20mpg.More on a long run,less when you cane it
There is one particularly steep hill on way to coast down my way and we all give Daisy a huge cheer if she can hold 25-30 in second all the way up!!
Remember you will get there eventually.
Best Regards and enjoy your van!!

Hmm How much did you say?For that you gotto be joking....
Mem No 4519
1981 2 litre a/c Holdsworth Camper
Mem No 4519
1981 2 litre a/c Holdsworth Camper
- robthechemist
- Registered user
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 11:54
- 80-90 Mem No: 4551
- Location: Brighouse, West Yorks
- Contact:
Hello DaisyAirHead,
The reason for the post is, having taken it to Brickwerks, Simon commented on the lack of power from the engine, but doesn't have much experience on the bodged set up in the back of my van. (we suspect there are components missing which doesn't help matters) I'm learning as quickly as I can, but there are still massive gaps
I'm having to resort to getting up hills in 1st/ 2nd most of the way with the engine power levelling at the top end. I get torque for a bit, but the power remains the same with increased revs passed a point of acceleration. My top speed is also lower than 55 on the flat with a tail wind...
I'm not after any speed records, but being overtaken by tractors is still embarrassing
The reason for the post is, having taken it to Brickwerks, Simon commented on the lack of power from the engine, but doesn't have much experience on the bodged set up in the back of my van. (we suspect there are components missing which doesn't help matters) I'm learning as quickly as I can, but there are still massive gaps

I'm having to resort to getting up hills in 1st/ 2nd most of the way with the engine power levelling at the top end. I get torque for a bit, but the power remains the same with increased revs passed a point of acceleration. My top speed is also lower than 55 on the flat with a tail wind...
I'm not after any speed records, but being overtaken by tractors is still embarrassing

It's hereditary you know - if your parents can't have kids, neither can you.
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 4
- Joined: 08 Dec 2007, 13:34
- 80-90 Mem No: 4519
- Location: Milford Surrey
Rob,
Yup sounds like all is not well.
Hope you can get to the bottom of the problem.
Don`t get despondent too soon.I was very"green" when I bought Daisy all those years ago and have gained knowledge slowly(only found this fantastic forum recently!) and despite toying with the idea of upgrading to something more modern,cannot part with her.
I am sure all usual checks i.e compression/timing etc will get to the bottom of the issue.Just a thought, could there be a mismatch between your odd engine and gearbox/ratios.? Is it worth tracing past owners to shed some light on things?
I am sure with the help of the great owners in the club and the specialists who you have contacted will solve the problem and hopefully as cheaply as possible.
Good luck and keep updating.
Best regards

Yup sounds like all is not well.
Hope you can get to the bottom of the problem.
Don`t get despondent too soon.I was very"green" when I bought Daisy all those years ago and have gained knowledge slowly(only found this fantastic forum recently!) and despite toying with the idea of upgrading to something more modern,cannot part with her.
I am sure all usual checks i.e compression/timing etc will get to the bottom of the issue.Just a thought, could there be a mismatch between your odd engine and gearbox/ratios.? Is it worth tracing past owners to shed some light on things?
I am sure with the help of the great owners in the club and the specialists who you have contacted will solve the problem and hopefully as cheaply as possible.
Good luck and keep updating.
Best regards


Hmm How much did you say?For that you gotto be joking....
Mem No 4519
1981 2 litre a/c Holdsworth Camper
Mem No 4519
1981 2 litre a/c Holdsworth Camper
- Tex Ritter
- Registered user
- Posts: 436
- Joined: 10 Oct 2005, 09:14
- 80-90 Mem No: 1057
- Location: Northumberland.
DaisyAirHead wrote:Hi Rob,
they are never going to set the tarmac on fire.
Remember you will get there eventually.
Best Regards and enjoy your van!!
I left a 3 feet trail of rubber once, I was going round a very steep uphill hairpin at the time and the van 'cocked its leg up', it did make the gendarme take notice though.

Tex Ritter 2ltr Aircooled
If you never have a route planned ...how can you ever be lost?
- robthechemist
- Registered user
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 11:54
- 80-90 Mem No: 4551
- Location: Brighouse, West Yorks
- Contact:
-
- Trader
- Posts: 3150
- Joined: 08 Oct 2005, 19:36
- 80-90 Mem No: 1
- Location: Huddersfield, WeYo.
- Contact:
Hi Rob.
I'll be back at work at the beginning of March, if you can live with out it for a few days leave it with us and we will fit it in amongst other jobs, better if you can leave it as we can do the tappets from cold.
Has backing the chokes off made any difference?
Maybe worthwhile pulling them carbs in bits also.
Your engine is a CJ from a late bay.
I'll be back at work at the beginning of March, if you can live with out it for a few days leave it with us and we will fit it in amongst other jobs, better if you can leave it as we can do the tappets from cold.
Has backing the chokes off made any difference?
Maybe worthwhile pulling them carbs in bits also.
Your engine is a CJ from a late bay.
- The Reverend Pimp Daddy
- Registered user
- Posts: 1149
- Joined: 27 Aug 2006, 10:03
- 80-90 Mem No: 3275
- Location: Cheshire
- robthechemist
- Registered user
- Posts: 25
- Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 11:54
- 80-90 Mem No: 4551
- Location: Brighouse, West Yorks
- Contact:
I adjusted the chokes, but didn't really see much improvement, I've also ordered the parts, should be here when you get back in to work Simon. I also think I should do something about the engine mounts...
Will have it in as soon as you can see it!
To answer the other questions, it has the tinwork from the CJ engine also and until recently was blowing the warm air back into the engine bay. It now goes to the front of the cab following a temporary fix. The seal around the engine bay is not perfect and yes there are gaps (wrong engine, wrong tinwork...).
Will have it in as soon as you can see it!
To answer the other questions, it has the tinwork from the CJ engine also and until recently was blowing the warm air back into the engine bay. It now goes to the front of the cab following a temporary fix. The seal around the engine bay is not perfect and yes there are gaps (wrong engine, wrong tinwork...).
It's hereditary you know - if your parents can't have kids, neither can you.
Most CJ engines didn't have hydraulic tappets, making them better than the CU *(or 'Jimmy' engine)
You really need to get the proper tinware fitted or the engine will cook itself. Standing in traffic, the engine will only be pulling in the hot air it just threw out the bottom. Then valve seats start coming loose and the fan goes a bit brown
You really need to get the proper tinware fitted or the engine will cook itself. Standing in traffic, the engine will only be pulling in the hot air it just threw out the bottom. Then valve seats start coming loose and the fan goes a bit brown

Laurie Pettitt-Engines.
07824514205
07824514205