Frustrating Hot Start issues
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Frustrating Hot Start issues
Iv had my  1.6td jx westi for a few years now and it's got a very annoying habit after long Journeys.. Motor runs   beautifully and no other issues except occasionally after a long drive and. Stopping.. When I go to restart the engine I get nothing... No attempt to  turn no relay click nothing.   Yet if I put 12v to starter it starts immediately... At first I thought the agitator  to the starter  was dirty and  was getting hot expanding etc but that's not the case.. Iv looked at the wiring diagram and I can't see any  overheat protection in the circuits  on a very rare occasion. Whilst driving the glow plug light will randomly come on... So im wondering if this is related... It can be very frustrating especially if you only stop to  refuel.. And then can't restart... Iv  currently got a means to  easily  power the starter to  start the engine.if it does haooeb. But  rather than having a bodge fix I'd like to get to the bottom of the issue.. I will  check and re clean  the connections.  But I'm sure this isn't the case. It does have a Clifford alarm immobiliser fitted but I don't belive this to be the issue...
			
			
									
									
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				Rosie n' Jim
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Re: Frustrating Hot Start issues
I've had this issue with an air cooled van. It was a common issue caused by voltage drop from ignition barrel to starter solinoid. It draws more current than you might think, especially when hot after a long drive. I fitted a relay activated by the crank wire, drawing high current from the battery connection on the solinoid. I believe a kit is available. Google 'T25 hot start relay kit'.
			
			
									
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				The Ark
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Re: Frustrating Hot Start issues
It’s common on old dubs, and is likely a worn connection in the starter switch, or the wiring itself. First step is to clean up any connections on the starter circuit that you can get to, including the battery terminals, and if that doesn’t fix it, fit a hot start relay as the above reply. It essentially does what you are doing running your temporary wire to the starter. 
If you can get to the wires on the back of the ignition switch, run a jumper wire from the fat red wire to the red and black wire. If that turns the starter when the switch doesn’t, your switch is fooked.
			
			
									
									If you can get to the wires on the back of the ignition switch, run a jumper wire from the fat red wire to the red and black wire. If that turns the starter when the switch doesn’t, your switch is fooked.
1987 Single cab TDI
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Tha ks I'll be testing and  fitting one on my next day off