MOT emission fail dilemma

[djaychela]

Thats news to me but the thing is even if some bloke as VOSA says it's OK

It wasn't "some bloke at VOSA", it was official advice given by them, after consultation, and it's backed up by what has happened every time I've had a failure in the last month of a retest since validity has been available online - MOT still valid, expiry date unchanged.

what if plod has it on his ANPR that you have failed an MOT

They won't. It's a legal requirement that your car has a valid MOT, which is not invalidated by having failed an MOT during that time. Not that you have taken an MOT at some point.

Plod might not be an expert in safety or understand the fail details

All the plod I've known say they aren't there to interpret the law, they're there to enforce it, so it seems even more unlikely that this situation would arise, but even if so, unless they had on-the-spot emissions testing equipment and an approved procedure for testing, nothing done would be worth anything. The worst you'd get is a rectification notice - having to pass an MOT-level test.

OP: I'd got to Glasto and have a good time, and worry about it when you get back - sorting it shouldn't be too hard As already said above, there's a good reason why you can't tax it for July...

[tobydog]

What do herbal cigarettes have to do with MOT's and where is Glaso?

[itchyfeet]

ok thats good news then djaychela

thanks for the heads up

[Darkhorse]

Thanks. I don't do the exotic Woodbines, the Thatchers Chedder Valley (Agent Orange) is enough for me.

[CJH]

Thanks. Good plan. It's a standard thread I.e clockwise to turn all way in?

Sorry - missed this. Yes, it's a normal thread so turn it clockwise to wind it in. It may be a bit stiff due to a rubber o-ring.

[stigma]

Regarding driving with remaining mot after fail:

"Driving a vehicle that’s failed

You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.
.....
In both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined."

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-new ... nt-expired" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kevtherev]

Thanks. Good plan. It's a standard thread I.e clockwise to turn all way in?

Sorry - missed this. Yes, it's a normal thread so turn it clockwise to wind it in. It may be a bit stiff due to a rubber o-ring.

Be aware...here lie dragons.

[djaychela]

Regarding driving with remaining mot after fail:

"Driving a vehicle that’s failed

You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.
.....
In both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined."

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-new ... nt-expired" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Which is what I was referring to originally - the vehicle needs to comply with C&U regulations at all times - having failed (or indeed passed) the MOT makes no difference to this - you're liable for any breaches of it in practice, however, in reality only a dangerous vehicle because of tyre condition or a really severe mechanical failure is in any danger of being even noticed by the police, let alone being prosecuted. Anything else you'd usually get a ticket to force you to get an MOT, and if you don't do that in time, they may do you; I've never known that be taken further if a pass is achieved.

The grey area is the C&U regulations themselves; if you want to disappear down a rabbit hole, feel free to start reading them in full. There are lots of such issues on rally cars (which have to be MOTed to compete, even when the event is off the public road), where the car will pass the MOT, but then you may be contravening the C&U regs, even if it has passed; the legality of "competition use only" tyres springs to mind, with the tyres being capable of passing an MOT - and indeed passing the C&U regs - until the introduction of a specific rule on the MOT which prohibits a car passing with tyres marked as such, despite them even being E-marked! So you could have a car which can't pass the MOT, but doesn't breach any C&U regs.... which is just the start of the fun.

[Darkhorse]

So after a fairly strenuous run to Glasto inc several hours inching along country lanes, a new air filter, a bottle of Wynns additive and disconnecting the crankcase ventilation hose from the pancake, the CO level dropped from 4.58 to 2.31 and the HC from 253 to 195, both well within MOT pass limit. No carb adjustments necessary (unless the tester did em on the qt) Happy days.

[djaychela]

Good news. Hope you had a good time despite the mud!

[Darkhorse]

Our first time there and we had a blast.
Really saw that Glasto spirit yesterday when stuck in the campervan west field. Watching the older rwd vans going for it alone to get out of the field, tearing downhill in an effort to get up enough speed to get up the other side, then folks running along side as they slowed, shoving them to keep their momentum and the cheers that went up once the made the drier flat. Brilliant!

[djaychela]

Yeah, I've been 8 times, both muddy and sunny, and it's a brilliant event.