ATE or Girling Caliper?

[Enternent]

I was planning to get new calipers but can't work out which ones I have for definite as they are so corroded. I think I can see two VV's one above the other which points to ATE or is that VW but rust making me think otherwise. Are both the Girling and ATE same shape and can either type of caliper be fitted to the vertical link or do the links differ? I would have posted a photo of my caliper but can't quite work out how to do that yet.

[kevtherev]

Can we assume you have looked in the wiki?

[kevtherev]

If you send the old calipers to Brickwerks they will send you back the correct same new ones

[Mocki]

It doesn't matter which if you are replacing everything , eitner fit and are fitted, but make sure the pads are for the right one too..
You don't say what age your van is, but for early the above is true .

[CJH]

Hope the OP won't mind me asking a supplementary question. If changing everything (discs, back plates, calipers, pipes) can an old style two-piston setup be converted to a new style floating caliper setup? Is there any benefit? At first sight the late Girling system seems a) to be in stock at Brickwerks, b) cheaper than ATE, c) to have stainless aftermarket back plates.

[Mocki]

I don't think so , but no doubt someone who does will be along directly !

[Enternent]

Sorry I forgot to mention my bus is a 1982.

[California Dreamin]

Early fixed 2 pot callipers use rectangular brake pads.
Yes there are differences in the 'ribbing' that distinguishes the two types however the pad retaining pins are a dead give-away: if the pins have G clips it mean its a Girling calliper.
ATE callipers use pad pins with expanding collars that knock into the calliper to retain the pin.

As for the later question: Given later callipers are floating and use a separate 'carrier' I doubt that the hub carrier bolt holes would match up early to late...I could be wrong but I don't think I am.


Martin

[gazza7200]

Is this any help?

http://brakeparts.co.uk/#!/shop/VW/TRAN ... 0cylinders