Electric oven into 13amp socket.

[Mark Foss]

I have also looked up the cooker. It is 10.7KW so over 40 amps. It will need its own dedicated circuit. No way plug into a socket! It will probably come without cable as well.

[Sir Brixalot]

Interesting thread for me. I fitted a gas single oven because I was told by the fitter that I needed a proper cooker switch with an electric single oven. Seeing this thread made me have another look and it seems that most single ovens are now designed to go in a 13A socket. I get problems with condensation in the winter and an electric oven produces less condensation than gas so I'm going to switch. it seems that the hob would make higher demands though so if I was putting a full cooker in I'd want the proper socket.

[meggles]

I have also looked up the cooker. It is 10.7KW so over 40 amps. It will need its own dedicated circuit. No way plug into a socket! It will probably come without cable as well.

That's what I was sort of thinking Mark but, as you know, I'm no sparky. You want a job? I'll get it sorted safely. My little ones are too precious to take chances.

[T3luestar]

As said above I think a lot of ovens are now designed to run off a 13amp socket, it's the self cleaning types that require a bigger supply because they heat up to a much higher temperature.

[Jeff J]

In my experience the cooker has always had a separate circuit with 6mm cable and hard wired into the cooker. She is about to move into a council house which has had a new Nehctik fitted (no appliances). The Cooker socket/plate has a lead coming out of it into a 13 amp socket. This is where she was told she could plug it in. It doesn't sound right to me. I am guessing that the socket is really for electronic ignition on a gas cooker, or something like that. It's an electric oven with ceramic hob. Easy to overload a 13amp cable I would think.

If it has a cooker plate already there should be no problem about connecting it without plugging it into the 13a socket. A pic would help in being able to advise if you could post one. It sounds to me like it is a free standing cooker which would just need a cooker connection unit fitting lower down from the cooker switch at the back of the actual cooker.

[bigherb]

Interesting thread for me. I fitted a gas single oven because I was told by the fitter that I needed a proper cooker switch with an electric single oven. Seeing this thread made me have another look and it seems that most single ovens are now designed to go in a 13A socket. I get problems with condensation in the winter and an electric oven produces less condensation than gas so I'm going to switch. it seems that the hob would make higher demands though so if I was putting a full cooker in I'd want the proper socket.

My separate fan oven works off a 13A plug as it is only rated at 2.5kw, the hotplate is wired through a cooker socket.

[meggles]

Ah, I think I see where some confusion arises! This is a cooker with a hob which is 'all in one' and has only one electrical cable running into it. If it were an oven with an electrical cable running into it, and then a separate hob with a cable running into it, then all would be OK running each from separate 13 amp sockets. Therefore the total current would be split between two feeds. I think I'm correct.

[bigherb]

then all would be OK running each from separate 13 amp sockets. Therefore the total current would be split between two feeds. I think I'm correct.

Nearly, the hob normally uses more than 13A. 30A in my case so needs to be through a dedicated cooker socket.

[lloydy]

If its a new oven, just read the install instructions. it will tell you exactly what you need to do. Manufacturers instructions are the 1st port of call and should be followed. A 13a socket will allow around 3 amp. Most kitchens, especially on older houses will have a proper oven spur somewhere.

For the person who gets a lot of condensation when cooking with a gas oven, do you have enough ventilation in your kit-chen? You are meant to have a opening window in your kitchen with a gas oven, or purpose provided vent. A sure sign of carbon monoxide is lots of condensation on your windows, so id get that checked if i was you. Although I'm pretty sure it will just be steam etc from the food your cooking, and you'll get the same with a electric cooker.

[lloydy]

Lifted from the manual for that appliance, should stop any guesswork..

The cooker must be connected by a competent person such as one who is a, NICEIC registered contractor to a suitable double-pole control unit with a minimum rating of 32A and a minimum contact clearance of 3mm (applicable to newer properties, older properties where a 30A double pole control unit and a minimum contact clearance of 3mm is acceptable).
The double pole control unit should be fitted adjacent to the cooker, in accordance with IEE regulations. The control unit must be within 2 metres of but not directly above the appliance and should be easily accessible in the event of an emergency. The power supply cable should conform to B.S.6004 with a conductor size of 6mm2, minimum.

[meggles]

Lifted from the manual for that appliance, should stop any guesswork..

The cooker must be connected by a competent person such as one who is a, NICEIC registered contractor to a suitable double-pole control unit with a minimum rating of 32A and a minimum contact clearance of 3mm (applicable to newer properties, older properties where a 30A double pole control unit and a minimum contact clearance of 3mm is acceptable).
The double pole control unit should be fitted adjacent to the cooker, in accordance with IEE regulations. The control unit must be within 2 metres of but not directly above the appliance and should be easily accessible in the event of an emergency. The power supply cable should conform to B.S.6004 with a conductor size of 6mm2, minimum.

Thank you.

[Oldiebut goodie]

You've got it wrong - this is how to do it!

[Walrus]

How did you get behind my pc?

[Sir Brixalot]

If its a new oven, just read the install instructions. it will tell you exactly what you need to do. Manufacturers instructions are the 1st port of call and should be followed. A 13a socket will allow around 3 amp. Most kitchens, especially on older houses will have a proper oven spur somewhere.

For the person who gets a lot of condensation when cooking with a gas oven, do you have enough ventilation in your kit-chen? You are meant to have a opening window in your kitchen with a gas oven, or purpose provided vent. A sure sign of carbon monoxide is lots of condensation on your windows, so id get that checked if i was you. Although I'm pretty sure it will just be steam etc from the food your cooking, and you'll get the same with a electric cooker.

Thanks for the advice, I didn't know that. I've got a vented extractor and I've got a detector but it's in the hall so I'll get an extra for the kithen.