The anatomy of a winding window?

[Emma&Al]

I've sourced the rapid leak of rainwater in my van, to the drivers window!
Waters coming straight down the side of the glass into the door panel, and depending on which way the van is facing up/down the hill, its either rotting the speaker at the bottom of the door, or running through the vent, onto the carpet and directly into the battery compartment.

The windows slightly wobby and rattles a bit when I drive.
How do I fix this? How does the winding window work and I wonder whats wrong?
Thanks!
Emma

[lloydy]

Have you removed the door card and checked if the plastic membrane is in place?

[Emma&Al]

Hi Lloydy - yes I currently have the doorcard off and I sat in there whilst it rained and saw it coming through...the plastic is broken, so I'll be resealing that. But the rainwater is coming in through the sides of the window, running through the inside of the door (can feel this through the gap in the broken plastic sheeting) and then making its way out via the vent at the bottom inside of the door... I cant work out if the plastic sheeting would stop this happening?

[orangebooboobearcrew]

Hi,

If its coming in down the sides of the window, it is probably the window scrapers that are at fault - cracked / perished. You might to look at getting those changed? Dead easy to do...

Thanks,

Chris

[Emma&Al]

Thanks so much - its becoming a large nitemare! This morning I found half of the battery compartment full with rain water!
So do you think I can order these from somewhere and what would I ask for?

[CovKid]

http://www.volkswagenemporium.co.uk/sho ... php?cat=11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - just one of many places

[Emma&Al]

http://www.volkswagenemporium.co.uk/sho ... velle80-90" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is it this?

Thanks CovKid!

[Emma&Al]

Ok so I ordered that scraper and I have it in my hand.
Im excited but worried about pulling off the other old one, in case I cant get the new one in - any tips? Im going to try to do this in the next half hour!!

[Bubble Meister]

Just pull it off. The scraper may have some clips fitted to assist in keeping it in place but they aren't critical.

[Oldiebut goodie]

But the water is supposed to run out of the drain holes at the bottom, the glass will never be completely watertight with a sliding closing action.
Water in the seat box sounds more like it is coming in elsewhere to end up there. The door itself channels water to the bottom not out to the middle of the van - unless the door is perforated, eg with rust, inside the seal.

[orangebooboobearcrew]

Yes, we still get water in the passenger side battery compartment.

This on our van appears to be due to a leaking cab door seal - currently removed as van is dry stored and ready for replacement, along with all other seals on the van.

Other things to check - silly as it sounds, make sure your window is fully wound up. If the regulator mechanism is tired, they can 'slip'' down so letting water in. Again, our driver side one does this - currently removed for replacement.

Sliding door seal may also be suspect, letting water into that area.

Not sure what roof you have fitted, if any, but the main body roof can rot out under these - this is quite exceptional though. Try the easier things first before going down that route...

Chris

[Emma&Al]

Hi,
I know it seems strange that it could come through via the door, but I've had the the doorcard off and the plastic out and I can see the water running through - the carpet gets wet exactly at the point where the water comes down through the door. It then runs directly in to the battery compartment.
I've yet to find the time to fit the window scraper, but hoping to do it in the next few hours - and yes, the rubber around that window is cracked, has some moss in it and is OLD!

I have a tin top but have two badly fitted vents. The front is a sunroof which may have been factory fitted or not? Not sure, its a 1990 Caravelle. The second is a badly fitted and badly placed air vent which I've recently refitted (with help!) and resealed and is now completely water tight. The sunroof actually leaks and I thought the leak was coming from there - but Im really quite sure its not now.

Orangebooboobearcrew (what a name!) - you're the only other person who has said that they have water in their battery compartment! Im pretty sure the window winds completely to the top. The sliding door is the other side (RHD).
Leaking cab door seal is interesting - although like I say, I can physically see the water running through the door, but like Oldiebutgoodie said, its designed to run through and run out of the vent...so Im not sure whats going on

[Emma&Al]

Just realised that there are deadlocks that were at some point fitted then taken out, so effectively there are 2 thin 3 inch or so holes cut out of the metal - one at the bottom of the door and one on the wheel arch quite near the seatbelt mounting point.
Perhaps that doesn't help.
Anyway, I've fitted the window scraper

[orangebooboobearcrew]

Hi,

Hopefully the scraper will sort it for you, but you could well end up having to do the seals as well - not a difficult job, just a tad fiddly.

As for the username, I have to point the finger at my good lady on that one I'm afraid.

Hope it is sorted now.

Chris

[Oldiebut goodie]

Just realised that there are deadlocks that were at some point fitted then taken out, so effectively there are 2 thin 3 inch or so holes cut out of the metal - one at the bottom of the door and one on the wheel arch quite near the seatbelt mounting point.
Perhaps that doesn't help.
Anyway, I've fitted the window scraper

So it isn't rusty holes that is causing it, it is purposely cut holes that haven't been covered that are causing the water ingress. It is running out of these instead of running to the bottom of the door. Pour water down the window with your hand over the hole to test if any water appears.
Pics, as usual, would make it clear.