Starter motor lesson required...

[itchyfeet]

I think he has now already done the test ^^^ but if it had been done earlier he would be £95 better off.

Next test I would do is to remove the ignition switch plug and hot wire it, this indicates if it's switch or wiring, could be a mixture of both of course so no harm in improving the trigger connection at the starter end.

if you need to know how to hot wire it PM me.

[slowcoach]

Well I have ordered a new one for £94 will swap it over and refurbish the old one.

Martin, I've ordered a gearbox bush, how easy is it to get to that?

The oilite bush is simple as long as you can operate your hands/tools without being able to see the part in question. I just took pics with my phone to make sure the rawlbolt was located properly and then continued. No more than a couple of minutes really.

I had a go at that bush when I swapped my starter recently. Bloody hell! Very difficult working blind like that. I gave up and left it in. It looked in good nick by using a mirror, so I brushed it with engine oil a few times. Next time I'll get you!!!

[what2do]

I guess it's because I'm used to working with my hands, often without any visibility. No, I'm not a gynaecologist!!!

[itchyfeet]

I guess it's because I'm used to working with my hands, often without any visibility. No, I'm not a gynaecologist!!!

You really should stop dogging

[what2do]

I guess it's because I'm used to working with my hands, often without any visibility. No, I'm not a gynaecologist!!!

You really should stop dogging

Last time you came over mine, you suggested my location was more suitable to cottaging!! I don't have time for all these activities.

[itchyfeet]

Last time you came over mine.

Careful or that may be taken out of context

[what2do]

Boom boom. I was hoping to keep that between us!

[The Bishop]

Well I think i have finally got there and the annoying thing is I knew what the problem was from the first moment.

I initially cleaned the connections on the solenoid and battery earth. But that didn't resolve it.

Anyway after a new starter failed to solve the problem I did a more thorough clean of the solenoid wire and cur it back a bit with a new terminal (although I an not happy it is a tight enough fit). This resulted in intermittent starting. I cleaned the battery earth and now it seems to start every time. Have also cleaned the +ve wire at the battery end, checked the ignition switch, cleaned the gearbox earth strap and cleaned the big +ve cable to the back of the starter.

It's starting although am I imagining a slight delay as I turn the ignition?

i'm wondering whether that solenoid trigger wire is dull all the way back, its not shiny, and thinking about running a new wire from the ignition to the solenoid.

Still I have learnt a lot. Thanks to those that have guided me through this.

Now, anyone want a secondhand starter motor in working order?

[what2do]

I was going to ask about you stater but honesty has prevailed, wouldn't you prefer to keep it as a back up? If not, I'd be interested as I'm still in need of a spare.

[itchyfeet]

Unless you are hard up keep as spare
never assume a new part will last anything like as long as an oem part
I pick up spares of as much as I can when I see them at a good price, fault finding is easy when you can swap parts to prove whats broken

[what2do]

Unless you are hard up keep as spare
never assume a new part will last anything like as long as an oem part
I pick up spares of as much as I can when I see them at a good price, fault finding is easy when you can swap parts to prove whats broken

And that, is the biggest tip Itchy has given me, thus far.

[The Bishop]

I guess you are right. I might even further my education by re-bushing it. Then I know I have a good one ready to go.

Thanks both for the help. Hope I can pass on your wisdom to someone else in the future.

[what2do]

Done myself out of a spare starter - doh!!

[The Bishop]

Grrr that wire from the ignition to the solenoid is cr@p.

It turns the engine over about one turn in three. Ok at the moment it works but for how long, I now know how to jump it with a long jump lead but no good if I have a full boot or my wife is ip using the car.

Will have to replace that wire. Anyone know the ampage of that wire or do I need to cut a bit off and take it to the wire shop?

[itchyfeet]

Wire colours and sizes are in Haynes
Red/black to solenoid from fusebox (not fused it just wires via fusebox) is 6mm2
this is sized to reduce voltdrop, its way over whats needed for the current

need to run that wire in sleeve under the van to protect it.