Fog lamp positioning

[AndyFrenny]

Hi, I have a 1988 T25 Autosleeper. It has fog lamps under the front bumper but they keep catching on the road when I enter or exit anywhere with a steep ramp. Can I re site the lamps on top of the bumper or does anyone have any pics of a better arrangement?

Thanks,

Andy

[MidLifeCrisis]

There was a thread out this (fairly) recently but I can't seem to find it anywhere ......
If they are actual 'fog' lights (as opposed to driving lights) then I think that there are rules as to how high they can be off the road surface and also how far in from edge of the vehicle but hopefully someone with some actual knowledge will be able to help ......

[fairwynds]

The legislation can be found by searching
Front fog lamps = Schedule 6 of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989
and Parts I of Schedules 2 to 5, 7, 9 to 13 and 17 to 21 to the extent specified in Parts II of those Schedules, if you want all the tiny details!
Incidentally, there are two sets of mounting points for additional light brackets which are found if you remove front bumper, on the top of the bumper iron which is then exposed. Brickwerks do the stainless steel brackets..

[fairwynds]

.....have been reading through Schedule 6...

Max distance from side of vehicle = 400mm, but only if used 'in place of obligatory dipped beam' headlights
(So read it as 400mm, or else you couldn't legally use them when you headlights are on!)

Max height above ground = 1200mm

Below is a copy of the actual schedule.....

SCHEDULE 6
requirements relating to optional front fog lamps

1. Number–
(a) Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (b):

No requirement
(b) A motor vehicle, other than a motor bicycle or motor bicycle combination, first used on or after 1st April 1991:

Not more than two
2. Position–
(a) Longitudinal:

No requirement
(b) Lateral–

(i)Where a pair of front fog lamps is used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility in place of the obligatory dipped beam headlamps–
Maximum distance from side of vehicle:
400 mm
(ii)in all other cases: No requirement
(c) Vertical–

(i)Maximum height above the ground–
(A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B): 1200 mm
(B)An agricultural vehicle, a road clearance vehicle, an aerodrome fire tender, an aerodrome runway sweeper, an industrial tractor, engineering plant and a home forces' vehicle: No requirement
(ii)Minimum height above the ground: No requirement
3. Angles of visibility:
No requirement
4. Alignment:
To the front and so aimed that the upper edge of the beam is, as near as practicable, 3 per cent below the horizontal when the vehicle is at its kerbside weight and has a weight of 75 kg on the driver’s seat
5. Markings–
(a) A vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1986:

An approval mark
(b) A vehicle first used before 1st April 1986:

No requirement
6. Size of illuminated area:
No requirement
7. Colour:
White or yellow
8. Wattage:
No requirement
9. Intensity:
No requirement
10. Electrical connections:
No individual requirement
11. Tell-tale:
No requirement
12. Other requirements–
Every front fog lamp shall be so constructed that the direction of the beam of light emitted therefrom can be adjusted whilst the vehicle is stationary.
13. Definitions–
In this Schedule “appproval mark” means either–
(a)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 5 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 19 of Schedule 4 to those Regulations; or
(b)a marking designated as an approval mark by regulation 4 of the Designation of Approval Marks Regulations and shown at item 19 or 19A of Schedule 2 of those Regulations.

[shepster]

It has fog lamps under the front bumper but they keep catching on the road when I enter or exit anywhere with a steep ramp.

How big are they!