Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Big lumps of metals and spanners. Including servicing and fluids.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Post Reply
mig
Registered user
Posts: 220
Joined: 09 Nov 2006, 19:57
80-90 Mem No: 4193

Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by mig »

I am trying to find the metal bush which presses into the gearbox bell housing supporting the main shaft,some sort of soft metal with grooves machined in ,sorry to be so vague,but I can't find a part no. or pic. on the internet.I did take a pic. of mine but it seems to have disappeared between my camera and photobucket
I am trying to order one from Brickwerks(or anywhere else)but would like to at least know what it is called or a part no.
Any help appreciated.
Ta

User avatar
CovKid
Trader
Posts: 8411
Joined: 30 Apr 2006, 13:19
80-90 Mem No: 3529
Location: Ralph - Coventry (Retired)
Contact:

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by CovKid »

The output shaft bearing?
Roller paint your camper at home: http://roller.epizy.com/55554/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for MP4 download.

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 6993
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by Aidan »

The oil thrower is not available seperately from the bellhousing, except from I think, Winkler, in Germany

it's not a bush or support it is there to resist the oil fling from the crown wheel being drawn along rotating shaft and overloading the oil seal, shaft runs in 0.5mm clearance, ie 0.25mm gap around shaft

I have them made in slight oversize by machine shop as so many are damaged by numpties fitting alt engines and not fitting spigot bearing and not fitting the diesel one with the built in seal in diesel/in line 4 installations - no spigot beaing means 350 miles later you have an oil contaminated slipping clutch and damaged parts to fix - using a petrol spigot bearing without the seal means clutch dust contamination of bearing and eventual failure and damage, so if you are doing an engine conversion make sure you fit the right one and if you are asking a company about doing an engine conversion ask them about the spigot bearing and if they fob you off walk away as they know not what they are doing

mig
Registered user
Posts: 220
Joined: 09 Nov 2006, 19:57
80-90 Mem No: 4193

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by mig »

Aidan,thanks for the reply,as usual your technical knowledge is amazing. Brickwerks tried to get some in from a German company that was the only place they could find listing them but apparently nothing came of it.
I am doing the conversion (slowly and with a lot of help from here)and was aware of the spigot bearing issue(probably from reading something you had written about it) and already have one from Brickwerks.
The diesel bell housing I obtained was completely bare so I thought it best to replace what I thought was a bronze bush with a new one.
I am o.k to carefully remove the one in the petrol bell housing and refit that?
Same question applies to the clutch release arm and associated bracketry ?
Thanks again for your help. :ok

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 6993
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by Aidan »

you can swap over everything from the petrol bellhousing except the clutch slave bracket and the lever arm on the end of the clutch fork which are petrol or diesel specific

mig
Registered user
Posts: 220
Joined: 09 Nov 2006, 19:57
80-90 Mem No: 4193

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by mig »

O.K the seller of the bellhousing assured me everything would swap over,do you know where I can get the bracket and lever arm?
Thanks

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 6993
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by Aidan »

diesel lever arm is afaik still available new - not sure about the slave bracket I don't have the parts programme on the linux partition of the laptop which I am on at the mo

mig
Registered user
Posts: 220
Joined: 09 Nov 2006, 19:57
80-90 Mem No: 4193

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by mig »

O.K thanks Aidan,
Is there any reason the petrol parts won't fit/work on a Van that was originally a petrol?
Can I trouble you for the part no. if you get a moment(I noticed you responded to this at 5:30 am- :shock: I hope you are getting enough sleep!)
Or do you have any used ones you could part with?
Thanks again

User avatar
Aidan
Trader
Posts: 6993
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 19:21
80-90 Mem No: 742
Location: Llanfyllin, mid Wales : )
Contact:

Re: Gearbox bell housing bush/Main shaft support

Post by Aidan »

if you are converting a petrol wbx van to inline 4 engine then you should use the diesel bellhousing, starter, input shaft, gearbox mount, clutch slave bracket and support strut, and rear linkage rod and cup along with the diesel engine mount stuff and sump regardless of new engine being petrol or diesel; plenty of vans bodged without all of it, some of them have had gearshift problems though as subtle differences between position of gearbox due to different engines

Diesel Lever arm I have in stock new and used
Clutch slave bracket and strut maybe used spare

Post Reply