hone or not to hone?

Big lumps of metals and spanners.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
dave friday
Registered user
Posts: 804
Joined: 15 Oct 2006, 11:19
80-90 Mem No: 5533
Location: rambler de oria, near albox,almeria,spain

hone or not to hone?

Post by dave friday »

So...anyone replaced piston rings without honing the bores?
The engine has done 50,000miles since a complete overhaul/rebuild, the top ring and the oil control are worn out [1.6mm ring gap!!] the second ring is as new [.45mm ring gap].
What does the panel think?
Ta.
I dont think, so I'm not[do I exist?]
1992 1600td [ jx ] syncro panel van[leisuredrive camper ]

User avatar
kevtherev
Registered user
Posts: 18832
Joined: 23 Oct 2005, 20:13
80-90 Mem No: 2264
Location: Country estate Wolverhampton Actually

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by kevtherev »

honing should be done to remove glaze from bores
at 50,000 there won't be any glaze
AGG 2.0L 8V. (Golf GTi MkIII)

User avatar
AdrianC
Registered user
Posts: 2975
Joined: 29 Dec 2010, 21:57
80-90 Mem No: 9144
Location: Living in Hay whilst the Sun pours down.
Contact:

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by AdrianC »

dave friday wrote:The engine has done 50,000miles since a complete overhaul/rebuild, the top ring and the oil control are worn out [1.6mm ring gap!!] the second ring is as new [.45mm ring gap].
What does the panel think?

I think whoever did the "complete overhaul" "forgot" at least one something. I wonder how much else they "forgot"?
A year and a half living in a Westy hightop... http://www.WhereverTheRoadGoes.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

User avatar
sarran1955
Registered user
Posts: 1476
Joined: 11 Mar 2009, 18:51
80-90 Mem No: 6754
Location: 6, les Hauts de Sarran 19800, Sarran ,Limousin ,FRANCE

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by sarran1955 »

AdrianC wrote:
dave friday wrote:The engine has done 50,000miles since a complete overhaul/rebuild, the top ring and the oil control are worn out [1.6mm ring gap!!] the second ring is as new [.45mm ring gap].
What does the panel think?

I think whoever did the "complete overhaul" "forgot" at least one something. I wonder how much else they "forgot"?


Hello,

Sounds like....

New set of rings all round....

Glaze busting.. (in his best blue peter voice).. you will need some 600 grit emery paper, a 'letter' sized sponge, some squezy washing liquid..

and a responsible adult...

wet the inside of the bore with washing up liquid, mount paper on flexy sponge, and sand DIAGONALLY, both ways.. wash, rinse and dry, coat with oil..

Voila!

Cordialement,

Image

dave friday
Registered user
Posts: 804
Joined: 15 Oct 2006, 11:19
80-90 Mem No: 5533
Location: rambler de oria, near albox,almeria,spain

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by dave friday »

Thanks both,Adrian what do you think was forgotten? the block was bored to 77.51mm and 77.48mm pistons and rings fitted,new bearings fitted,new oil pump,new cylinder head...all the fitting was done by me.
I dont think, so I'm not[do I exist?]
1992 1600td [ jx ] syncro panel van[leisuredrive camper ]

dave friday
Registered user
Posts: 804
Joined: 15 Oct 2006, 11:19
80-90 Mem No: 5533
Location: rambler de oria, near albox,almeria,spain

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by dave friday »

Thanks Sarran,I have a new set of top quality rings [bought at great expence here in Spain ] and am waiting on a hone and stretch bigend bolts.
I dont think, so I'm not[do I exist?]
1992 1600td [ jx ] syncro panel van[leisuredrive camper ]

User avatar
AdrianC
Registered user
Posts: 2975
Joined: 29 Dec 2010, 21:57
80-90 Mem No: 9144
Location: Living in Hay whilst the Sun pours down.
Contact:

Re: hone or not to hone?

Post by AdrianC »

dave friday wrote:Thanks both,Adrian what do you think was forgotten?

I was assuming it was built by somebody else, and they'd "forgotten" to fit new rings. But if you built it, and it was rebored and new pistons/rings, then that can be ruled out...
A year and a half living in a Westy hightop... http://www.WhereverTheRoadGoes.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Locked