gearbox whine diesel 4 speed

[shrekwoody]

hi people!

gearbox is a little noisey, whats best & at what cost?

recently removed ky 1700 d & re fitted 1900 1y, great low mlg runs sweet, but i have noticed a wineing from gearbox

its done 120k and soon as van warmed up its noisey

im considering fitting a 5 speed, althou seen some info on here saying not really worth it??

are parts available to diy recon or am i best to save the pennys and buy exchange recon ?

not forgetting to mention have i caused the wine going 1700/1900d? is the ratios gonna change/affect gearbox

i havent gone mad 55/60 mph, its no ferrari but the wine noise scares me alittle & carnt keep turning the stereo up!

just asking for some advice/ideas, spending alot restoring my first camper & looking forward to getting away this summer but dont wannna end up deaf or towed home?

THANKS, shrekwoody

[AdrianC]

Gearboxes are expensive. Before you spend money, are you 110% _sure_ it's the gearbox, not a wheel bearing?

Might be worth having a think about and a good describe of the whine - does it do it in any particular gear, is it worse when you're accelerating or decelerating? If you drop it into neutral and cruise, does it still do it? Is it worse or better or the same whilst cornering (left or right)? Any particular speeds?

As far as whether a 5spd is "worth it or not" - consider the overall gearing, not just the number of ratios. If fifth in a 5spd is the same ratio as fourth in your current box, then there's no cruise benefit, merely more in the middle to play with, which might be worthwhile if you spend all your time towing heavy trailers up mountains. Pick a box with a higher top, and you've got lower revs on the motorway. The Wiki's got the various gearbox codes and ratios.

[shrekwoody]

thanks for your thorts, ive have coasted in neutral and no noise

when its cold, first few mins drive its fine, once warm its noisey

ive changed the oil and when i drained there was alot of small fileings on drain plug

when i changed engine there wasnt any play in shaft

ive recently done 300 mile round trip and was faultless trip to say van been in a thousand pieces and not seen the road for past 4 years but ive replaced alot

cheers, chris

[shrekwoody]

p.s it seems fine at lower speeds

anything above 45 ish it starts & gets worse when accelarating

[igotadizzy]

make sure its not the clutch release bearing before you spend lots of money

[shrekwoody]

hi & thanks

full new clutch kit fitted with new bearing whilst doing engine conversion

done 500 mile max

perhaps need to spank the bank and change gearbox

is 125k alot for this type of box?

[Aidan]

it's the lack of oil changes that damages these boxes, VW said sealed for life when the vans were new, no oil change only top up if leaking, full VW service history to 100k miles no oil change
what they meant was '100k miles/10 years throw it away and buy a T4'
I've seen boxes with over 350k miles that were fine but had evidently been oil changed regularly

[shrekwoody]

hi aidan

what prices am i loooking for recon/exchange 4 speed/ poss change to 5 speed

do i need to sell a kidney.....

do i qualify for any discount as me van im restoring was from wales

even welsh flag on plates & window sticker!

cheers, chris