thanks for that guys,
i have had a bit more time today to have a look, its a tad more complicated than i thought, firstly, my leisure battery is down 8.2ishv but 13. something started, the van battery is 12.something off 13. something running, so all good on that side, i hope
heres the issue i think is the problem,
my van has a cobra immobiliser which when pressed isolates the battery completely, as it should, if you dont press it, the battery drains?? dont know why.
it would seem, the yellow wire of stereo is connected to the immobiliser side of the battery
and the red is connected to a separate live not affected by the immobiliser, but not enough power to power up the stereo??? it just pulsate/flashes the stereo as if its acting like a immobiliser flasing led,
so when it went off the other day, the van was running, so what the hell im totally confused,
behind the dash, whoever wired all this together clearly only had red and brown cable, as thats everywhere including wires to the speakers
and because if this, its very very difficult to say whats what without removing the dash completely.