Internal 12v Electrics - Autosleeper Trident

[Autosleeper VW]

Hi All,

For some unknown reason, I have lost all of the 12v electrics in our 85 Autopleer Trident, ie: no internal lights, 12v socket, fridge, this happened whilst we were away no warning just went. any suggestions would be welcome.....The 240v system ie light and socket still work.

Many Thanks
Phil

[1664]

Check the 20 amp fuse from the leisure battery

I assume the battery's not flat..........

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[Autosleeper VW]

Hi,

There is no 20A fuse near the battery, just the 30A switching fuse, and yes the battery is charged.


Cheers

[1664]

The 30 amp is the fuse in the split charging wire from the relay yes?

According to the diagram there should be a 20 amp leading to the control panel. Is there another wire coming off the leisure positive terminal?

[Autosleeper VW]

Theres 2 red wires coming from the positive on the leisure battery, one to the 30A relay and the other goes through the floor pan where the battery is mounted.

Thanks for sticking with it

Cheers Phil

[1664]

Well according to the wiring diagram (assuming you don't have the optional mains hook up powered battery charger 'BC125B') one wire is from the split charge with a 30 amp fuse which you have found and the only other is to the control panel which should have a 20 amp fuse. I think you should (for now) work on the basis that that's your control panel feed until proven otherwise. Do you have, or can you get hold of a multimeter? Can you trace the wire under the van and see where it goes (and see if there's a fuse anywhere).

Where about's in the country are you? Pointless me typing all this if you live a mile from me.....

[Autosleeper VW]

Hi,
I'm in cheshire, I have a multimeter, I have checked the fuses in the small control panel mounted near the water level gauge visually but not with a meter, ill do that in a mo, is this the panel you describe?

Cheers

[1664]

If you mean the panel above the side kitchen unit window then yes. I doubt it will be those fuses - not unless they've all ruptured at once which is highly unlikely.

Bare in mind that although I am fairly familiar with the Trident layout having looked at a few when looking for a camper I don't actually own one. Do you know how to remove the control panel so you can access the connections in the back? You need to establish whether 12v is reaching the control panel or not - if there's no 12v getting to the panel then it's a wiring fault, if there is then the fault lies within the panel (not the news you want).

Alternatively, you can physically get under the van and trace that wire to see if there is an obvious break or a fuse in it.

[elsid]

I had trouble with the electrics on my 1985 VHT (pre dates trident) so phoned AS to see if they could supply a wiring diagram. The guy I spoke to asked me what week it was made as they were all different depending on what bits they had in stock at the time! My van is fitted with a CF9 Zig unit fitted in the back locker of the high top, the only one I've seen so I did my own wiring diagram. The fridge is on a separate circuit to the lights etc. although the are two fuses for it in the CF9, one for 12v and the other for 240v. My problem was a break in the main feed to the Zig unit which I couldn't trace so I fitted a new wire direct to the Zig via a 25 amp fuse. What Zig unit, if any, is fitted to yours?
Sid

[1664]

Elsid, a few of the Autosleepers had a 'control panel' rather than a 'Zig'. The very late ones had a Zig CF2000 fitted (I think that's the Zig designation). Both these types were mounted over the kitchen unit and side window. I've never seen one with a CF9 mounted in the rear locker though - I reckon that was probably retro fitted.

[elsid]

I haven't seen another A-S with a CF9 fitted but I am sure it was an original fitting because the rear locker door is offset to one side to allow for it. There is a panel over the sink unit with the water level gauge, 12v socket and switches for the water pump and fridge, the relay for the 12v fridge is mounted on the back of this panel. All the electrics in the van go through the CF9 which has 6 fuses in it,
1. 15 amp fridge 12v
2. 3 amp fridge 240v
3 10 amp 12v socket, heater and water level gauge
4 10 amp lights and fridge igniter
5 10 amp water pump
6 2 amp 240v for battery charger
It has an on/off switch for 12v, a selector switch for car or caravan battery and battery condition LED's, a switch for mains charger and fridge 240v and a selector switch for towing or on site. When towing is selected both batteries are charged by the alternator, when on site the leisure battery is charged from the mains when on hook up.
Sid

[1664]

Do you have any pictures of the rear locker and the area over the kitchen unit? I'd be curious to see them as I've never seen one like that. (and I like van porn)


Wonder where Autosleeper VW's gone?

[Autosleeper VW]

Still no luck, I have attached some pics to show both control panels, checked accross the 4 fuses, but no result, before I start prodding are all off the wires above the kitchen 12v? I am assuming they are....

[1664]

Never seen a control panel that 'simple' before. What's the section at the far end? I can't quite make it out; Fuses? There shouldn't be anything other than 12v connected to that but the cable that passes through behind the panel might be mains. When you say nothing across the fuses you mean continuity measured by multimeter?

Second picture is your mains hook up consumer unit.

I'm off to Angelsey tomorrow so I may not be on here so much but I'll try and pop back on as and when I can...

[1664]

Any chance of a full on view of the back so I can see where all the wires go to? Doesn't matter if you flip the control panel forward and the subsequent view is upside down in relation to a picture of the front, I can just turn it around on my computer.