Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Big lumps of metals and spanners.

Moderators: User administrators, Moderators

Locked
Cleavesy31
Registered user
Posts: 5
Joined: 27 Apr 2012, 02:35
80-90 Mem No: 0

Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by Cleavesy31 »

Hi everyone
I have recently bought my first VW it's a westfalia joker T3 it's a 1983 water cooled Bus.
The engine apparently has only covered 100000 miles.
It's a 1.9 Litre petrol with a 4 speed box it had a new clutch and realease bearing in 2012.
After a 30 minute drive last Sunday a loud bearing grinding noise started when the clutch was depressed, it was a heavy noise which seemed to clunky for clutch realease bearing.
I have taken my van to a local garage and they are unsure whats wrong, and want to pull out the gearbox to inspect the clutch.

I'm a Forum Virgin any helpful suggestions would be appreciate

Thanks Cleavesy

User avatar
jamesc76
Registered user
Posts: 6241
Joined: 14 Oct 2005, 14:42
80-90 Mem No: 1186
Location: Nottingham
Contact:

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by jamesc76 »

could be the spigot bearing gone and its alowing the input shaft to move about! worth taking the box off and having a look! Plus get them to change the gearbox oil, and whilst at it photograph the magnetic side of the drain plug, that way you can see how much metal has been ground off etc
DJ at Dubdayz Summerfest
Now cutting about in an LT35 MWB

User avatar
Ian Hulley
Registered user
Posts: 12661
Joined: 11 Oct 2005, 08:08
80-90 Mem No: 1323
Location: Wirksworth, Derbyshire ... or at t'mill

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by Ian Hulley »

The classic symptom of the spigot bearing going is that you can't select gears with the engine running. As James says check the drain plug on the gearbox ... AFTER checking that the fill bung can be undone :mrgreen:

Welcome to the forum. :ok

Ian
The Hulley's Bus
1989 2.1DJ Trampspotter
LPG courtesy of Steve @ Gasure

Cleavesy31
Registered user
Posts: 5
Joined: 27 Apr 2012, 02:35
80-90 Mem No: 0

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by Cleavesy31 »

Thanks for the advice I will have the spigot bearing checked next week.
If the gearbox needs replacing/reconditioning how hard would it be to fit a 5 Speed box? I have a Westfalia 1983 left hand drive 4 speed.

Plasticman
Trader
Posts: 8077
Joined: 12 Oct 2005, 20:55
80-90 Mem No: 1948
Location: lincolnshire

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by Plasticman »

Not hard but why would you want to? 4sp prob a better box , and you would need gearstick and lots of bits £££££
mm

chrisbarnard
Registered user
Posts: 10
Joined: 03 Jan 2009, 17:54
80-90 Mem No: 0
Location: Shropshire

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by chrisbarnard »

I have a 1990 Westfali Califrnoia with a 5 speed box. Last year in france it decided to seize on the motorway (definitely not good)
Could write at great length about poor RAC European cover but won't here.

However, trying to find another 5 speed box was almost impossible! I was seriously considering buying one from the German ebay site and driving there to collect it.

Eventually found one at the dealer I bought the van from a few years back.
Last edited by chrisbarnard on 06 May 2012, 11:21, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
kevtherev
Registered user
Posts: 18832
Joined: 23 Oct 2005, 20:13
80-90 Mem No: 2264
Location: Country estate Wolverhampton Actually

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by kevtherev »

there's really not much in it between 4th on a four speed and 5th on a 5 speed.
AGG 2.0L 8V. (Golf GTi MkIII)

Cleavesy31
Registered user
Posts: 5
Joined: 27 Apr 2012, 02:35
80-90 Mem No: 0

Re: Loud grinding noise when clutch is depressed

Post by Cleavesy31 »

I decide to change the gearbox oil myself, The oil was very dirty but there was not as much metal filings on the drain plug as i was expecting.
There was only 3litres of oil in the box i put about 4 1/2 litres back in.
After i finished, i started the van up on axel stands and went up through the gears, there is a slight noise in 3rd and 4gear which sounds similar to the original noise when the clutch is depressed but a lot quieter.
What should i do next?

Locked