Paint Your Wagon - with a roller!

[2020mad]

After spending the easter weekend carefully hand sanding van with 1500 grit then hand cutting i had found that i could still not get any shine out of my paint

I had a lovely shine after the first few coats...and then decided on a final coat and am now wishing I hadn't as it's patchy and the shine has gone. I can't think of anything I've done different, the only thing I can guess is that perhaps the humidity was too high or the temperature too low and it's affected the finish. I'd used the same thinners on all coats so I don't think that's the issue. The weather seemed ok on the day but perhaps the evening's affected it, I'm not sure.

The other thought was weather the paint has to be stored at any particular temperature. My tins have been in a chilly garage over the winter - I wouldn't have thought that would have made a difference but I'll soon find out if I put another coat on.

Did you try another coat on yours 2020Mad?

Silky

No not yet, waiting for temperature to rise a bit, have polished all van now to see where needs doing again. going to try and do just a few panels rather than whole van again. was also thinking of possibly ordering my paint in spray can form, may speed up the process a bit.

[tobbibaum]

Hey guys,

thanks for the answers. I already read a lot and the thread is very helpfull! Bit its damn long and I am not a native speaker (german).
I guess the pdf. guideline will be my orientation.
What exactly does flatting down mean? I cant find it in my online dicionary!

Thanks for your help guys!

Tobi

[tobbibaum]

Any Tips on doing the roof? Thougt about starting with the roof, but I think it is not that easy for the first steps?!

[Silky]

What exactly does flatting down mean? I cant find it in my online dicionary

Hi Tobi,
Flatting down means to take the shine off the paint so you've got a good surface for the next coat - usually with a fine grade sand paper.

Best of luck with it,

Silky

[CovKid]

Even with the language barrier, the DVD will avoid you making simple mistakes and having to ask basic questions. Its possible that the German language could be added to the subtitles but need someone who speaks/understands both well so I can E D I T the master copy.

[Cruz]

Is there a midlands to English translation too

[CovKid]

Thats rich coming from a bloke living in Sunny Preston

[thoha1970]

Hi Tobi,

if you have any probs to understand these english conversation, don't worry. I'm a native german from south of Germany.

Due to my job English reading and speaking is my daily business.

German on:

Falls Du Fragen hast, schreib mir einfach ne mail (thoha1970(at)webPUNKTde)

Ich kann die DVD nur empfehlen, auch wenn Sie nur in englisch ist. Sie ist ihr Geld wirklich wert

Germon off:

I put on my first coat last Sunday (see results below in the thread.

Cheers

Thomas

Hey guys,

thanks for the answers. I already read a lot and the thread is very helpfull! Bit its damn long and I am not a native speaker (german).
I guess the pdf. guideline will be my orientation.
What exactly does flatting down mean? I cant find it in my online dicionary!

Thanks for your help guys!

Tobi

[thoha1970]

Hi all,

some news from south Germany:

I've applied the first coat of Rustoleum last Sunday @ f****** +5°C on my VW LT.

Despite this really low temp, the result is quite good for the first coat.

I've mixed up Rustoleum paint with approx. 20% white spirit.

Also I've applied the paint not with a foamroller, I've used a roller which has instead of foam something like 3-5 mm long hairs (more or less like a "fur" on it).

Direct after applying with this "fur" roller the paint, it finished the coat with a "wet" high glossy foam roller.

I believe with such a "fur" roller you'll be able to apply a thicker layer, compared to a foam roller.

Maybe due to this, 2 cycles of coating should be enough (I'll see after the 2nd coat).

Unfortunately you can see, in case you have a look in detail on the coating, all the traces of the 240 grade I've used before the first coating.

This weekend I've to cut the first layer with 600 grade (and hopefully the 240 grade traces will disapear due to this) and prep the doors and bring the first coat on the doors.

Find attached a few before / after pics:

Before:




After:









Cheers, Thomas

[thoha1970]

Hi CovKid,

I could do that job in case you would supply the subtitles as Excel sheet, word files, simple ASCII file,... .

For sure first I've to finish my LT and bring it back to the road

It could be a task for sitting (somewhere in the outback) in front of my fresh painted LT and having some beers.

Just drop me an email In case you're intereted on that.

thoha1970(at)web.de

Cheers

Thomas

Even with the language barrier, the DVD will avoid you making simple mistakes and having to ask basic questions. Its possible that the German language could be added to the subtitles but need someone who speaks/understands both well so I can E D I T the master copy.

[CovKid]

The big drawback with laying on Rustoleum, or any paint that thick is you're much more likely to get orange peel and a lot more work trying to get it flat again. It would also take a very very long time to harden. However, if you're ok with the finish then its a good way to do the job fast.

[bmouthboyo]

Hoping to do this in the next few months.

I am about to buy a sealey DA Orbital Sander with an assortment of grade sanding pads. It will set me back about £100 with pads so just want to check it is worth it over cheaper non DA sanders. Do we still need to worry about swirls when rolleringor does the thicker application remedy this?

Also could i use the sander for the flatting back once paint has hardened fully?

[MattyGreg05]

sorry to jump over your question bmouthboyo but i would like to ask: given that some of the pics on here would suggest the paint gives a duller finish when complete, would applying a laquer over the final coat bring out a glossy super shine to the finish?? just thouht i'd ask as i have no idea at all about painting

[CovKid]

Swirls will show no matter what method you apply the paint with. As any painter/sprayer will tell you, a good finish is 99% prep and best done in thin coats. Period.

A laquer will not smooth out orange peel - merely highlight it. You have to flat down if you get orange peel. If you don't lay it on too thick, you should get little if any.

If you look around the net for rubbing compound tips, you should find all you need. I have to say, I think this has been covered so many times in this thread already, we're in danger of going into loop mode.

[tobbibaum]

Hey all,

I have another question concerning the coats and the work inbetween.
Is it possible to paint a second coat without flatting back?
In the wiki you said "for some an unflatted finish would be acceptable". So just one coat could be enough or are you talking about 3-4 coats just without flatting?
I would like to use the car a few weeks before I continue working on it so I am a little afraid that just one coat wouldnt be enough.

Thanks Tobi