turn key engine - wassat den?

[jamesandtheopenroad]

Fall Apart Dave is selling a turn key engine on the for sale section. What's one of those then?

(google has proven remarkably useless at delivering an answer)

[R0B]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnkey" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

sold or turned over to a buyer in a ready-to-use condition

[jamesandtheopenroad]

Yeah, I saw that but it doesn't really give an answer - just says a drivetrain (engine + transmission). The turn key engine described by FAD sounds like something specific. Is it not?

[Ian Hulley]

Sounds like some kind of fancy aircold motor mate .... not of any interest to me and thee

Ian

[jamesandtheopenroad]

[VERAT25]

turn key as in ( a special product) from start to finish.

A turn-key or a turn-key project is a type of project that is constructed by a developer and sold or turned over to a buyer in a ready-to-use condition.

worked on lots of turn key packages in the engineering world.

ie we build it............they turn the key..and off it goes ( well sometimes)

verat25

[Ian Hulley]

In this instance a better description may be 'plug and play' ... i.e. fit the engine turn the key and it's a guaranteed runner.

Ian

[jamesandtheopenroad]

Ah, plug and play - now that I understand. The age of the digital ...

[VERAT25]

Ah, plug and play - now that I understand. The age of the digital ...

love it

[California Dreamin]

Nice term but I'm sure in this instance it is used to describe an engine 'ready to go' just connect it up, fill with lube and coolant start & run. So this implies most anchillaries are included ie: water pump/coolant housings/belts/flywheel maybe clutch/carburettor or injectors/distributor/alternator perhaps etc

The opposite would be an engine where you have to add your old sump/flywheel/manifolds/distributor/leads/water pump/belts/alternator and pulley's...so definately not 'turn key'.

Martin

[kevtherev]

The opposite would be an engine where you have to add your old sump/flywheel/manifolds/distributor/leads/water pump/belts/alternator and pulley's...so definately not 'turn key'.

Martin

Isn't that known as a "short" engine?

[CovKid]

Turnkey generally means "It ran fine when I last used it. Bung it in and it should get you about. After that you're on your own"

[California Dreamin]

Short Engine is: Block/crank/pistons and sump...thats it...no heads or anything else for that matter.

Martin

[kevtherev]

erm no that'd be a short block mate, and it would include the portion of the engine block below the head gasket but above the oil pan. An in-block cam engine will also include the camshaft and timing gear.

A short engine is an engine without ancilliaries.

[California Dreamin]

Installed a few Kev...Short engines, Full engines.....every manufacturer has it's own interpritation...Mercedes used to do a a full engine with everything...just connect wiring harness, cooling pipes, engine mounts, and gearbox. megga expensive tho. I know VW offered short engines the way I described...minus head...I can remember doing a few MK2 Polo's and Golfs like that and the parts department always refered to them as short engines....but like I say what the engine actual comes with varies quite alot, there are no hard and fast rules as to what this description includes.

Martin