Temp and Pressure Gauges

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You might like this one too then:
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Has the steel hardline, too, the hose is just dress-up.

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Nicely done! Hats off to all pioneers and original thinkers :ok

P.S. I'll be "borrowing" that manifold idea, if it's ok with you tencent?
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You wouldn't be the first.

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I was thinking more along the lines of a square "ring" manifold with a fixing bolt in the centre, if you know what I mean. Not so much a copy, more of an "homage" :wink:

That's if I can find a suitable place to site it on the engine!
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Not getting your meaning, maybe something like this little widget?

http://store.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Oil- ... p_314.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyway, build it, then you can show me!

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:lol: Someone had too much programming time on their hands there! Nice work though.

Similar idea, but imagine the drillings all offset from the centreline in a clockwise fashion, breaking into each other and leaving space in the centre for a fixing bolt.

Think along the lines of a (hesitates to use the word) s w a s t i k a.
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I think it's past time the swastika's real meaning was reclaimed, as it's an ancient symbol of good fortune in many cultures.

So you go first.

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I agree. I'll get a test piece made :ok
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just got this delivered this morning i know it will fit on my engine and should fit on wbx dont know what the space is like for a diesle, it has 3 threaded inputs for senders just got to re tap the thread to accept my oil tem sender. which will be right in the flow of the oil (a good thing) i cant see any reason why a oil pressure sender could not be incepted in to this as well.

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wrong place to take the pressure as it would be constantly at line pressure
best place is from the lifter gallery the 0.3bar switch.
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Pressure sender needs to be as close to the main bearings as possible Neil, so just screw it into the side of your B23. No clearance problems to worry about?
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axeman wrote:just got this delivered this morning i know it will fit on my engine and should fit on wbx dont know what the space is like for a diesle, it has 3 threaded inputs for senders just got to re tap the thread to accept my oil tem sender. which will be right in the flow of the oil (a good thing) i cant see any reason why a oil pressure sender could not be incepted in to this as well.

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It's very commonly done with sandwich adapters. The one you have is sold as an easy place to install senders, but sandwich plates are mostly used as take-off for a remote oil cooler. I use only the Mocal thermostatic ones for my cooler kits, and although some people have drilled them for senders, I feel the wall thickness isn't sufficient, there's only enough for 2 or 3 good threads. That may be OK for someone's own install, but not OK for me to offer to customers as I would have to back up any problems if I made the mods, and it would also void the Mocal warranty.

Something like this is also an option if you have a remote cooler:
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tpc=P ... on=product" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The difference in pressure measured at a sandwich plate as compared to the main galley would be higher by the differential across the filter, since the senders are screwed into the outer wall of the adapter. Filter drop is only 2-3 psi warm, the auto gauges most of us might buy have margins of error of at least that much.

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That may be OK for someone's own install, but not OK for me to offer to customers as I would have to back up any problems if I made the mods, and it would also void the Mocal warranty.

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What form do you see any problems taking?

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only enough for 2 or 3 good threads

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i am planning to insatall the adapter between the engine block and my mocal (thermostatic) take of plate as a means of measuring the oil temp. as said before the mocal sandwich plate has no where obvious that i could install the sender.
i did not realise that the pressure sender location was so critical, always learning

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