Eastern(ish) europe journey - episode 1+2+3+4+5

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Just as a bit of embellishment for anyone interested heres a few Pix of said Plitvica Jezera NP in high summer:

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Beautiful colour, stunning landscape, fish and then some; and humanity, lots of it! I would have preferred to break in before dawn and stayed until the first crowds showed :)

Interested in where you went from here Al!
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So.....

After an hour or so of driving along the winding road from Plitvice Jezera the sun was long gone and the heavens had opened. The road markings on most of these backwater Croatian roads are very faint at best, so this particular road was getting harder and harder to drive with the conditions, so we decided we needed to find a wild camp spot as soon as we possibly could. We pulled over and checked the map and picked an area about another ten minutes up the road, it had some large areas of forest that seemed as though it might provide a bit of cover to hide in.

So we set off again and ten minutes later we were peering into the darkness hunting out a way to get off the road and into somewhere suitable to park up. We spotted a forest track and pulled in. We could see that about 100m down the track that there was gate, so we pulled off the side of the track a distance away from the gate to make sure that any early morning forest vehicles could make their way past if necessary.

We had been parked up for a couple of hours, got quite comfortable, to be honest i was just about ready to get in bed when a vehicle pulled up behind us. "Damn it" i thought, how typical, we're going to get moved on for the first time in the trip on the one night when i could really do with just crashing out.
A Croatian chap appeared at the window, he spoke no English but gestured to us that we shouldn't sleep where we were and was making a "shooting a rifle" gesture also. Now, i had seen torches and heard rifle shots in the woods in the distance earlier on when i was outside relieving myself.
Fair enough, we didn't really want to be parked in amongst a load of people out shooting with live ammunition, so we packed up, checked the map again. We saw a small road that led off through a small village which then went off into the wilderness, Perfect! Off we went.

We found the road, went through the village, over a railway track then the road turned into a dirt track. Then it turned into a much more bumpy dirt track and then we reached a junction of 3 tracks. At this junction there was a sign by the side of the road which had a kind of military stencil font and was of course in Croatian so we couldn't read it, something felt a bit iffy about this sign and as was a bit of space to park this seemed as good a spot as any.
When we woke up in the morning ( i had set an early alarm to make sure we got away before any tricky public interaction might happen) i took another look at the sign, here's the picture i took of it:
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Something just didn't feel right and I had a strange sense of urgency about leaving so we packed quick smart and started making our way back down the track towards the village.
(As it turns out, the sign we parked by was designating local hunting grounds, that particular area is basically one huge hunting range)

A few hundred meters down the track there was a 4x4 pick up coming the other direction, they pulled in to let us past. "Phew" i thought, that could've been that awkward situation.
As we went past the vehicle, the occupants were giving us a very strange look, that sort of "where the hell have you just come from" kind of look. As we passed i noticed some red graphics on the bonnet which i didn't quite see properly, however i did notice that the guys inside were all wearing military uniforms.....
Thank god, the last thing i wanted after the previous night was a complicated broken English conversation about why we had been been where we had etc. Another few hundred meters down the track there was a convoy of vehicles head towards us, the track was wider here so we were able to just keep driving, which i was very glad about as this convoy consisted of 5 troop carriers, 4 more 4x4's, and an ambulance all with the same red graphics which turned out to be a skull and cross bones with the word "MINE" underneath it!!!!!! :shock: :lol:

Needless to say all of the troops gave us that same "what the f***" look as we went by. By this point i cant tell you how happy i was that my sense of urgency had got us moving when it had, i've no doubt they would have had a few words had we still been camped up.

Once out on the open road we decided to high tail it back to friendly Slovenia, the last 24hrs had been an experience not to be forgotten but not necessarily one i wanted to repeat in a hurry. We had timed our departure from Croatia so that we would arrive back at Lake Bled when the campsite opened and we were more than ready for a couple of cushy nights with electric, showers, civilisation etc.

Then we got to the Croatia/Slovenia border again..... This time we thought we would just use the motorway past Zagreb and go through the larger border and hopefully swerve an experience like we had before. So we pulled up in line with all the other vehicles (there were loads of cars this time as the border is quite large) and waited our turn. Things were moving quite quickly which seemed promising, then it was our turn.

The customs guys came over and did the usual checks, they asked a few questions:
Customs - "Where have you been?"
Us - "Pag island, Split, down the coast mainly" (didn't think we would mention the war zone, and mine field... :lol: )

Customs - "So you haven't been into Montenegro or Bosnia then?"
Us - "No"

Customs - "Are you sure you haven't been into Montenegro or Bosnia?"
Us - "Yes, we are sure we haven't been there"

Customs - "Are you carrying any drugs, weapons, anything you shouldn't be?"
Us - "No, we've got nothing we shouldn't have"

Whilst he is asking this he is looking me directly in the eyes trying to suss out if im lying or not, he keeps having a look for a few seconds and then says "could you pull over to the side please".....Here we go again!

So they start searching the van, the first thing he opens is the fridge, which happens to have an unopened box of parsley right on top, which he removes with a look on his face like "JACKPOT!!" but quickly laughs and says something to his partner. It was obvious what had happened there, thought it was his lucky day! :lol: :lol:
They continue searching, same deal as last time, cupboards, door pockets, engine bay etc etc etc.
Whilst they are searching Harriet turns to one of them and says "sorry its a bit messy in there". He laughed out loud and said "That's not messy, you should see some of the Romanian cars that come through here, they're like rubbish tips"
(respect to these guys though, they neatly and carefully put everything back where it had come from) Yet again, they didn't bother searching or even asking what's in the enormous roofbox?

Eventually he is satisfied with his search, turns to us and asks one more time. "Are you sure neither of you has any Marijuana?" staring us both in the eyes again.

Us - "Nope, we haven't got any"
Customs - "Smoked it all already have you?"
Us - "No, we havnt....seriously"
Customs - "I see, left it at home did you?" He gave us a smile and then said, here are your passports, enjoy the rest of your holiday! :lol: :lol:

I was quite pleased we were back inside the EU by this point and that we wouldn't have any more borders to cross. I think we had already had our fair share of searches.

Eventually we reached Lake Bled and headed straight for the campsite, both of us couldn't wait to get there to be honest. We took the turning, made our way round the lake, pulled up to the....gate....looked at reception.....no lights on....tried the door.....locked................Bugger. :(

I couldn't believe it, gutted was an understatement. We called them to see if they were 'really' shut and they informed us that they wouldn't be open for another couple of days.....ARRGGHH. It was at this point we decided that we'd stay in the car park next door (Again) and head for Lake Bohinji in the morning as it seemed more likely we could find a nice place to camp there.

We strolled around the lake, drank some Gluhwien, wandered around the town (Again) and took some pictures as the weather was a little better than before.

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I had to get a pic of this as you just wouldn't see this in the UK. They have clearly demolished a quite large house on this plot....but left the door?
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The next morning we left for Lake Bohinji. The guide books describe this place as follows:
"Resting in a near vertical mountainous embrace lake Bohinj is the perfect get away to commune with nature and experience amazing Slovenian hospitality. Hiking paths start from just about everywhere around the lake, leading both the casual and the extreme hiker into the heart of the Julian Alps.

This sounded perfect, and upon arrival we weren't disappointed, the Lake was lovely, the surroundings seemed very quiet and beautiful, the only downside was that the weather was still hampering any decent views etc. So we decided to go on a bit of a hike to see a Slap (waterfall) that was nearby.

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Well worth a visit if at Bohinji, i imagine it's probably quite busy in season which would make it a bit of a different experience, but nice all the same. Was great to be there with not another soul around though and was a great place to visit in the weather we had, clouds kept rolling in and out of the valley occasionally giving glimpses of the river leading to the lake far below.

Once we got back to the van the light was fading so we made our way to a spot we had picked out earlier to stop for the night. Had some food, a couple of beers, turned on the heater as the temperature was dropping very quickly and settled in for the evening.

The next morning we woke up to something absolutely wonderful.......

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Nice one Al, that waterfall looks nice.

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you should write a book i would buy it :ok
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you should write a book i would buy it :ok

WOW, thanks!! :ok

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I'm waiting with baited breath for the next installment .....
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The next morning I woke up 20 minutes or so before my alarm. I felt quite awake so got up, grabbed the camera and went outside as it appeared as though the weather was a little better than the day before.

It was perfectly still, not a breath of wind but it was still very cold. I strolled down to the waters edge to have a look at the view across the lake. What i discovered when i got there was amazing! I rattled off a few shots then went back to the van to get Harriet up. She was already putting on her shoes when i got there and was a little but disgruntled because i'd not woken her up. Not phased i hurried her along as i had something to show her.

We strolled back down to the water and it wasn't long before the fact i'd left her in bed was long forgotten. As the temperature had dropped so much and it had been raining overnight, all of the surrounding mountains had been layered with snow above about 1000m. The fog had cleared and we were presented with possibly the most breath taking scenery we had experienced so far. To say it was magical would be an understatement.

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After taking a whole host of photo's we got back in the warm of the van and put some breakfast together along with the obligatory cuppa. Over breakfast we decided that we would stay at Bohinji for the day and walk round the lake, we had seen on a map that there was a trail that went all the way round so we would be able to get back to the van without any back tracking.

We got our stuff together and set off for our stroll. There still wasn't another soul around, we had the entire place to ourselves. The reflections on the lake were so near perfect that i couldn't resist skimming a couple of stones across its surface, we stayed for a while to watch the increasing circles as they slowly faded away and the mirror like picture was restored to its former glory.

We continued on round and at the far end of the lake we reached the main campsite (which was shut of course). We had a good look around the pitches located near the water for future reference in case we manage to get back there during spring/summer at some point. The campsite is well equipped with water, sinks, washing up stations, electric hook up points and nice flat pitches in amongst a little tree cover. Some of the pitches are literally meters away from the water, must be brilliant in the warmer months.

We carried on crossing a bridge over the river where it enters the lake. This is the river that flows down from the Julian alps, over the waterfall that we visited the day before. The water is crystal clear, and like various rivers in Slovenia it has a particularly turquoise appearance.

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The weather was still holding out but as you can see from the following picture it wasn't far away.

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The building that can be seen high up on the ridge is a lift station (the eagles nest) for a cable car that climbs 1 vertical kilometer. There are hikes from the top of this cable car that can take you up far higher and give spectacular views across the alps and of Mount Triglav, that gives it name to the Triglav national park. We couldn't take a trip on the cable car even if we had wanted to, that was shut also! (spot the recurring theme)

Here's a few more pics from the north side of the lake.

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We had passed a sign earlier just after the campsite that said the main village (at the southern end) was 1.5hrs walk away which turned out to be pretty accurate, after strolling through a mix of autumnal leaf littered forest, rocky outcrops and wide open forest style tracks before we reached the village around 11am.

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It seemed as though the conditions had become even more still at this point (if that's possible) which gave us the opportunity to grab these pictures.

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We grabbed a drink from the tiny supermarket in the village and stopped for a short while by the bridge over the river at this end of the lake digesting the magnificent surroundings we had been presented with. Its amazing how a situation like this can make you feel so humble. For me that's the reason for coming to places like this and the reason for having a vehicle that can make it possible.

Once we had got back to the van and had some lunch we decided to head off for a mountain road we were keen to drive. Its called the Vrsic pass and links Kranjska Gora with Bovec via a 1611m twisting pass through the mountains.
We figured that as it had snowed the night before that the views from the pass might be really good, winter wonderland kind of stuff.

We headed off towards Lake Bled (yet again) as that was our best route to get to Kranjska Gora and after a few hours we had nearly arrived. By this time we could see the mountain range we were about to attempt driving over, it was shrouded in grumpy pregnant looking clouds and through what clear bits there were in the weather we could clearly see quite a large quantity of snow on the higher levels of the mountains.....hmmmmm.....it was feeling a little touch and go at this point.
Not deterred by the conditions (encourage to be honest) we carried on until we reached the town and found the turning leading to the pass.

At this point i should mention that its a good idea to sort out buying your snow chains well before you think you might need them (you are required by law to carry them on many roads in these parts of the world during the winter months). We had ours with us for this attempt on the Vrsic pass, but it was a bit of an ordeal finding them. We actually spent an entire day in Italy before reaching Slovenia hunting them down. It does help if your wheels are of a sensible size, but finding chains to fit 235/70/16 tyres would be more difficult at the best of times, but in Italy (neither of us speak any italian) and having no idea where to even start looking for a motor factors or shopping center, well lets just say it was a bit complicated.

After texting an Italian friend of mine (thanks Mel) and her sending a phonetic "can i buy some snow chains please" bit of Italian we set off in search of a shopping centre in a town an hours drive from where we were. We found one on a industrial estate, massive place. We went in, searched everywhere and couldn't find any the right size......damn.......but just as we had given up and were on our way out Harriet spotted a "Bosch" sign in a tucked away store we hadn't noticed, it was a hardware store and HALLELUJAH they had the exact size chains we needed.

"Phew" and we didn't even have to break out the 'Italish' / 'Engliano' ....result!

So the moral of that story, if you're going away in the winter, buy some chains before you leave, especially if you've got unusual size wheels or you'll end up wasting some time trying to find some like we did. Unless you fancy the challenge, as looking back on it, the whole thing was quite funny really. But it always is when you look back at it isn't it.....
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WOW Slovenia really is nice isnt it? I hope you get to reach Kranjska Gora, I really liked the place, especially the free camping at the bottom of the ski lift :wink:

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I've just read all the way through this!

Absolutely fantastic read! Some really stunning photos and i'm glad you've shared with us all!

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Great read, and crackin photography, desperately need another syncro!!! :ok
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nice trip indeed. 8)
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Beautiful photos,

The crop makes me think of Japanese art.

Well done,

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Merci beaucoup!

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This is great, love it! Very well written, and great photos as well! Thanks!
I kinda like the idea of travelling in this time of the year even though the theme of closed up places. No swarms of tourist and less traffic, seems very peaceful.
Looking forward to the next part!

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I kinda like the idea of travelling in this time of the year even though the theme of closed up places. No swarms of tourist and less traffic, seems very peaceful.
Looking forward to the next part!

This was sort of why we opted for going that time of year, but it would have worked out a bit easier had we been a month later. The winter season in lots of places was about to begin, so there would have been a bit more going on had we been a month later. But like you say, it would probably have been busier then too.

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