Removing the roll-pin from the gear lever

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Removing the roll-pin from the gear lever

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Hi all,

I am trying to change all the bushes on the gear linkage shaft because of sloppy gear change. My van is a syncro 1.6TD.

I need to remove the roll-pin that holds the gear lever to the gear shaft. In the words of the wiki this is done by:

"... and then there is a roll-pin (6mm x 32mm, NLA) that has to be driven up into the cup to remove the lever-cup from the shaft"

I have no idea what "driven up" into the cup means! Do I hit/bang it with a hammer? do i drill into? or is there a special tool for that? do I need a new one to put back on?

It might be the stupidest question ever in the forum, but I was puzzled with it and since the pin is stuck inside there for so long, and I will need to apply force anyway, I just want to be sure that I am applying the correct kind of force:)

Thank you very much!

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If you have some of the roll pin protruding it is sometimes helpful to grasp it with a pair of mole grips which has the effect of easing it's grip. If nothing protruding you will have to drive it through with something like a nail that has had it's point cut off (+ hammer), ensure that the nail is of lesser diameter than the hole but not as small as to allow the nail to go inside the pin. A masonry nail is my favoured choice for strength.
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Oldiebut goodie wrote:If you have some of the roll pin protruding it is sometimes helpful to grasp it with a pair of mole grips which has the effect of easing it's grip. If nothing protruding you will have to drive it through with something like a nail that has had it's point cut off (+ hammer), ensure that the nail is of lesser diameter than the hole but not as small as to allow the nail to go inside the pin. A masonry nail is my favoured choice for strength.

Very nice , thank you :D so basically is just hammering it through!
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Usually roll pins are punched through with a pin punch. I got one in a set from machine mart, about 3mm from memory, but I use rest of the set all the time.
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Strangely.....the proper tool to drive out a roll pin is a 'Roll Pin Punch'!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=roll+p ... r:15,s:125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And yes...different to a pin punch.

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Your post links to parallel pin punches though! :)
Masonry nail is cheaper and easier to get hold of from diy type places if you don't have one to hand. (And who uses the proper tool all the time?). I used to just turn up a piece of steel on the lathe when I needed something like that.
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California Dreamin wrote:Strangely.....the proper tool to drive out a roll pin is a 'Roll Pin Punch'!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=roll+p ... r:15,s:125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And yes...different to a pin punch.

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Thats what I use Martin, much cheaper than making one on a lathe after you factor in the cost of the price of the machinery and not the sort of thing you take away with you on trip just in case, or squashing the ends of your fingers with a nail.

Lots of driftpinary on a syncro to deal with so I always carry a few drifts to make life easy :ok

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There you go never even new there was a tool specifically for it!

California Dreamin wrote:Strangely.....the proper tool to drive out a roll pin is a 'Roll Pin Punch'!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=roll+p ... r:15,s:125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And yes...different to a pin punch.

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What about this set:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001C7P7U8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

it looks handy and it is cheap. I am thinking of getting it :lol:

I am guessing that the difference between a pin punch and a roll pin punch is that the later has a small "pimple" in the end to fit into the roll pin?
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