Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
Thanks Cruz,
you have confirmed wnat I was afraid of - that they are not longer available.
On the different numbers for the LT & T25 - I wonder whether this has to do with the point mentioned in the original post about the top brackets not lining up quite right on the T25. Do the T25 gaskets perhaps have a tapered, thicker section to make up the 'misfit' under the single bolt on the smaller return face? (On the bais that the gasket pictured in close up is an LT with the bracket rotated to fit?)
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you have confirmed wnat I was afraid of - that they are not longer available.
On the different numbers for the LT & T25 - I wonder whether this has to do with the point mentioned in the original post about the top brackets not lining up quite right on the T25. Do the T25 gaskets perhaps have a tapered, thicker section to make up the 'misfit' under the single bolt on the smaller return face? (On the bais that the gasket pictured in close up is an LT with the bracket rotated to fit?)
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
I doubt it. LT mirrors probably don't line up without a bit of mild persuading because the angle of a LT door is probably different to a T3. A T3 mirror arm will line up perfectly.
There are 3 screw holes on an upper bracket and I think originally T3 brackets only had two hence the handed gaskets. The most recent upper brackets were suffix A which suggests there was a previous design. I reckon the T3 page on etos just didn't get updated properly
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LT bracket rotated to fit??? The close up (on the green van) is the correct bracket for that side of the van, you can't rotate them to fit the other side. The brackets are handed.
There are 3 screw holes on an upper bracket and I think originally T3 brackets only had two hence the handed gaskets. The most recent upper brackets were suffix A which suggests there was a previous design. I reckon the T3 page on etos just didn't get updated properly
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LT bracket rotated to fit??? The close up (on the green van) is the correct bracket for that side of the van, you can't rotate them to fit the other side. The brackets are handed.
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
Cruz,
by 'rotated' I was referring to the misalignment you mentioned in the first post.
If you had fitted the bottom hinge first the single bolt hole side of the top bracket would, as you said, not line up properly with the door frame. It would leave a tapered gap, wider at the bottom edge of the bracket. I was suggesting that the T25 gaskets may have been made thicker in this area to allow the bracket to sit square to the mirror arm.
Anyway, if they are not available, it takes me no further forward.
cheers
Garyd
by 'rotated' I was referring to the misalignment you mentioned in the first post.
If you had fitted the bottom hinge first the single bolt hole side of the top bracket would, as you said, not line up properly with the door frame. It would leave a tapered gap, wider at the bottom edge of the bracket. I was suggesting that the T25 gaskets may have been made thicker in this area to allow the bracket to sit square to the mirror arm.
Anyway, if they are not available, it takes me no further forward.
cheers
Garyd
Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
You need to post a technical for people with t3 syncro mirrrors to post up pcitures of their top brackets 

Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
Just wanted to thank Cruz for the heads up about these mirrors, mine finely arrived from Germany yesterday 

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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
We've got LT mirrors on ours - and, having seen the "right" arms in the flesh, I've gotta admit, I prefer the look of the LT arms. They sit parallel to the slope of the windowed section of the van side, and they just look so much neater.
The _only_ drawback is that the opening quarterlight windows don't go past 90deg, the top of the glass hits the top of the arm - which, I presume, is why VW made the two styles rather than just fitting one to both. So - if you've not got the opening quarterlights, don't lose sleep. If you have, then make your choice. Personally, I can live with not having that little extra opening angle, in return for the better looks.
The _only_ drawback is that the opening quarterlight windows don't go past 90deg, the top of the glass hits the top of the arm - which, I presume, is why VW made the two styles rather than just fitting one to both. So - if you've not got the opening quarterlights, don't lose sleep. If you have, then make your choice. Personally, I can live with not having that little extra opening angle, in return for the better looks.
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
How did you do these top fixings? I've picked up some Syncro mirrors for my Westy and I'm considering different methods of fixing for the top bracket as there obviously aren't any holes there yet.
Cruz wrote: I then removed the top mount from the arm (watch you don't lose the little spacer bushes) and using the top marked hole position as a guide I re-positioned the top bracket to sit flush to the angled part of the cab door, re-marked the holes, drilled and fitted the top mount
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
Just read all this...the top brackets are all the same...! The gasket is a taperered spacer on the t3 mirrors and th arms are different, as is the bottom brackets...but not the top ones.
Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
You are wrong in that the top brackets are handed right and left and are not transferrable to either side.
Bottom brackers on LT and Syncro arms are different in that the bolt spacings are not the same. Syncro bottom brackets are available from brickwerks
T25 upper bracket gaskets do have an angled wedge on them but they are no longer available so flat gaskets can be used and even home made from rubber sheeting (ebay) as the arms can take the slight twisting need to fit them
it has all been covered in the thread somwhere
Bottom brackers on LT and Syncro arms are different in that the bolt spacings are not the same. Syncro bottom brackets are available from brickwerks
T25 upper bracket gaskets do have an angled wedge on them but they are no longer available so flat gaskets can be used and even home made from rubber sheeting (ebay) as the arms can take the slight twisting need to fit them
it has all been covered in the thread somwhere
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
I drilled the door and fitted using torx pin self tappers from ebayclift_d wrote:How did you do these top fixings? I've picked up some Syncro mirrors for my Westy and I'm considering different methods of fixing for the top bracket as there obviously aren't any holes there yet.
Cruz wrote: I then removed the top mount from the arm (watch you don't lose the little spacer bushes) and using the top marked hole position as a guide I re-positioned the top bracket to sit flush to the angled part of the cab door, re-marked the holes, drilled and fitted the top mount
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Oh deary me, I'm going to get a rollicking for playing on forums at this time of day when SHE thinks I ought to be working! But, I saw your lower grill and got very excited - it's pretty neat to say the least. Please do tell where you sourced it from as I like it a lot. Thanks in advance.
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
I made my own using two cheap standard grillswhat2d wrote:Oh deary me, I'm going to get a rollicking for playing on forums at this time of day when SHE thinks I ought to be working! But, I saw your lower grill and got very excited - it's pretty neat to say the least. Please do tell where you sourced it from as I like it a lot. Thanks in advance.
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You can get wraparound grills news from Justkampers or heritage but I think they are about £150
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Re: Fitted extra large LT 4x4 syncro style mirrors today
Evening all. Do you think it may be possible that these mirrors and arms may still available in mainland Europe? My reason for asking is that I have a very good friend in Lithuania that says that there are tonnes of T25's and LT's knocking about. I'm struggling to get the missus to use the van for the school run as she hates the fact that nearside viewing is nigh on impossible with the standard mirrors - I tend to agree but just chance the traffic anyway!!!! Cheers.
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?
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'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.